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I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by cesarb »

fowkswe wrote: post #23
steveBK123 wrote: post #7

Dishwashers are absolutely an appliance to splurge on. The difference between bottom-tier, adequate-tier and high-end is basically a few hundred bucks. Bottom-tier are loud, don't actually clean dishes well, are ugly, and fail early. Top-tier are near-silent, clean dishes without a pre-rinse, have all sorts of intelligent drawers & racks to fit all your needs, and look great. Some of them even have fancy features lik…

Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell.

> Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell.

You don't take your appliances with you when you move?

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by frosted-flakes »

latexr wrote: post #21
andrewfromx wrote: post #3

The irony, you really need two. One for clean dishes ready to be used, one for dirty, and do away with cabinets!

I once saw a kitchen in Italy which had a cabinet right above the sink. You wouldn’t notice when it was closed, but if you opened it you’d see it didn’t have a flat bottom but dish racks. So you’d wash your stuff, put them in the cabinet, and they’d dry in there with the excess water falling directly in the sink. I haven’t used the system myself, but the people living in the house liked it.

This is apparently very common in Finland.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by Havoc »

>It’s pronounced “Mee-la,” which rhymes with “Sheila.” Now you know.

Not quite...closer to Mee-le. There is no prominent A at the end. Never heard anyone German pronounce it that way. See also Miele Germany youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTCxBwHHMI

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by m_antis89 »

LazyMans wrote: post #22
j-pb wrote: post #16

This is quite funny from a german perspective. My first thought when I saw the headline was "oh cool a start-up that disrupts dishwashing, I wonder what fancy overpowered tech they throw at the problem". And then it turns out to be a Miele, one of the common go-to brands for household appliances in Germany. Fun fact: Miele is actually one of the few companies that has technicians that carry a ton of spare parts in th…

The repair comment is interesting. It seems in the US if you have a warranty claim for an appliance they contract with some generic repairman who has to order parts.

labor unions are stronger and more prevalent in the EU than in the US

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by buffington »

steveBK123 wrote: post #7

Dishwashers are absolutely an appliance to splurge on. The difference between bottom-tier, adequate-tier and high-end is basically a few hundred bucks. Bottom-tier are loud, don't actually clean dishes well, are ugly, and fail early. Top-tier are near-silent, clean dishes without a pre-rinse, have all sorts of intelligent drawers & racks to fit all your needs, and look great. Some of them even have fancy features lik…

I have a cheap (in every sense) dishwasher with no fancy features that's nearly silent. Whether I put in relatively clean plates or filthy messy pots, it cleans them perfectly.

Prior to that I owned a very expensive dishwasher and it was awful. Within the 90 day return window it broke twice. A week before that window closed I returned it and bought the one I have now for a third of the price.

Someone I work with has a huge family. Something like eight or more kids. If I need recommendations on appliances I go to him because he's basically running dishwashers and laundry machines 12 hours a day. His advice to me for dishwashers: buy the cheapest one you can find. When it breaks, fixing it yourself usually costs under $100, and if it doesn't, get the same model and keep the functional parts of the old one (motors, pumps, control boards, inner rack parts, etc) as spares.

It's been 5 years and I've yet to have any issues with the cheap no-frills one.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by philwelch »

cesarb wrote: post #31
fowkswe wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell.

> Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell. You don't take your appliances with you when you move?

In Texas people usually take their washer, dryer, and fridge.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Post by nickcw »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #26
whitemary wrote: post #17

Why is the “average life span" given as a range?

Because it depends on how you use it and your water quality. 10yr for hard users, 20yr for light users. Most people are presumably in between. Edit: On second thought the lower bound is heavy use, the upper bound is probably "we can't guarantee all the rubber won't degrade and leak after this age".

Our last Miele dishwasher lasted for 11 years. The current one has been going for 10. We are a household of 6 and often set the dishwasher off 2 or 3 times a day so we are probably hard users.

As for our Miele washing machine - it is still going after almost 30 years! The main bearing is going so it is VERY LOUD and unfortunately not economic to fix. The Meile tech I asked said the failure mode would be leaking water so I said we'd wait for that. Still doing OK 2 years later :-)

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