The article mentions that Android app is also coming, any guesses for Windows (or Linux...) desktop clients?
Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
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Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. It really doesn't. It was easy enough to organize music by the correct metadata in a local collection on Amarok 15 years ago. ID3 already supports all of the requisite metadata. You just need an app that is flexible and supports a 'now playing queu…
> needs a dedicated interface >> It really doesn't... You just need an app that is flexible Do you have a suggestion about an app that doesn't suck for classical music? I'm aware that metadata fields exist, but that doesn't help with playback, which is why the original comment mentioned a dedicated interface.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am not into classical music, but I think there are similarities for fans of jam bands especially the grateful dead. Ive never heard a group so passionate about specific versions of song depending on the date/location. I feel UI designers could make something work but its such a niche group of people its hard to spend resources designing and maintaining a catalog of recordings of different versions of the same song.
Come to think of it, Phish or Grateful Dead live shows have some overlap, but that's more about recordings on different dates by the same artist, while classical adds different artists, or sometimes the same artist on different dates, or sometimes the same orchestra but a different conductor, or... But yes, that's the closest I can think of, but I think it's a smaller niche even than classical music.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#54Great, because we need more specialized apps. I love classical music but I would rather use Spotify for that purpose because at this point I have realized the only thing important for Apple is money. I prefer not to further contribute to a trillion dollar company that has so much restrictions in their ecosystem.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#55This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…
I've noticed there's a problem on streaming services where low quality artists basically spam the service with extremely low quality recordings of classical pieces. They often sound like they just got a midi file of the score and played it back through a piece of software. The scores for most classical music are public domain so there is nothing "wrong" about this but no one really wants to listen to low quality MIDI…
I'd say it's more than likely they did play the piece themselves, just it's often done by individual piano players that don't really know how to record piano digitally effectively. They're pianists, not sound engineers, after all. Often you'll find recordings of the default piano patch built into their digital pianos, or you'll see them using low quality VSTs or good ones that they simply don't know how to get the best results out of.
Hell, even if they're recording a real piano, they often don't have the best spaces, the best equipment, or even really know what they're doing. There's a lot of bad recordings done in good spaces as well.
A sort of glimpse into recording piano from a wonderful pianist, Nahre Sol, can be found on her youtube channel [1]. It's really hard to get right, even if you're an excellent pianist because ultimately, recording engineering is an entirely different field of expertise.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzSef7k-BKs
As far as filtering out the low quality stuff... is there even a reasonable way to do that? It seems wholly subjective. You could probably create a filter for recording labels that are known to put out good classical music recordings like Deutsche Grammophon and the like if you only want professionally recorded music.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. It really doesn't. It was easy enough to organize music by the correct metadata in a local collection on Amarok 15 years ago. ID3 already supports all of the requisite metadata. You just need an app that is flexible and supports a 'now playing queu…
> needs a dedicated interface >> It really doesn't... You just need an app that is flexible Do you have a suggestion about an app that doesn't suck for classical music? I'm aware that metadata fields exist, but that doesn't help with playback, which is why the original comment mentioned a dedicated interface.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#57"Available worldwide where Apple Music is offered, excluding China, Japan, Korea, Russia, Taiwan, Turkey, Afghanistan and Pakistan."
Is it a rights issue?
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#58Let's hope it doesn't kill the only radio station with sense but without ads: KDFC
What would kill KDFC would be Apple putting up a really good streaming station for classical.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed there's a problem on streaming services where low quality artists basically spam the service with extremely low quality recordings of classical pieces. They often sound like they just got a midi file of the score and played it back through a piece of software. The scores for most classical music are public domain so there is nothing "wrong" about this but no one really wants to listen to low quality MIDI…
> They often sound like they just got a midi file of the score and played it back through a piece of software. I'd say it's more than likely they did play the piece themselves, just it's often done by individual piano players that don't really know how to record piano digitally effectively. They're pianists, not sound engineers, after all. Often you'll find recordings of the default piano patch built into their digit…
There were low rent artists that had seemingly recorded every single famous classical piece. Not just piano pieces but all kinds of stuff.
They pop up in search results, but then you listen to it and you can tell it's not a cello, it's a keyboard or midi sequencer with a cello sound.
With a good keyboard and a human playing it you get the human nuance. That's not what a lot of these were.
Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order
#60Welp, I estimate this will kill my NPR Classical Radio app within a year or so.
I'm still surprised that there isn't a requirement for streaming services to carry publicly beneficial content (and pay a license fee for such content to NPR/PBS).
(Used to listen to NPR regularly, but in the last few years my local station has become absolutely intolerable)