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Interesting. I live in Texas and I've used it like... once, many years ago (haven't had it installed on my last two phones). Defaults for me and mine are SMS (iMessage when available), Discord, and then I've got a couple people on Signal
I try to avoid iMessage because when I'm abroad I never know if it's going to fallback on SMS and I'll have to pay for a text
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They have been on the side of encryption since the beginning really. I think had WhatsApp not added E2EE in 2014, Encryption wouldn't be that wide spread today.
Wasn't that right before WhatsApp was bought though? From what I remember they made an effort to implement E2EE before Facebook had any say in it.
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They have been on the side of encryption since the beginning really. I think had WhatsApp not added E2EE in 2014, Encryption wouldn't be that wide spread today.
Wasn't that right before WhatsApp was bought though? From what I remember they made an effort to implement E2EE before Facebook had any say in it.
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I believe you don't know the meaning of the term "end-to-end encryption". Obviously the application itself (and the phone) can see the text you put into it, because it has to display that text. "End-to-end encrypted" means "from the moment the text leaves the phone, to the moment the text arrives at the recipient's phone, the text is encrypted such that no intermediate party can read it". You must of course trust or…
That is all good and clear, but its not open source and the government would not need have a back door, they can just request the received messages, or am I wrong here?
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They say that 98% of users are outside the UK (and those users very likely won't want reduced encryption), so whatsapp would probably just exit the UK.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
Call me sceptic, but does not whatsapp see what you are typing when you are creating messages? They need to log the keydown event somehow, right? And the predictive text spits out what it thinks you want to type. And backups are possible even if you never had one before. This is so very dodgy to me. Maybe its e2e from the moment you submit until it arrives at the desired destination. Which brings me to the next issue…
If it ain't open-source, you can't trust it. Signal or GTFO.
Dark patterns trick WhatsApp users to enable backups to Google and Apple. If you have them disabled odds are good the other side got tricked into them. Even if your backups are encrypted, it's using only a 64bit key. That means Five Eyes have near real-time access to your "encrypted" messages. Hell, I have to decline backups every time I use WhatsApp on my iPhone, yet after a phone reset all my messages were still th…
“If the company refused to do, it could face fines of up to 4% of its parent company Meta’s annual turnover – unless it pulled out of the UK market entirely.” Wow. I wonder if it got to that point if Meta would change course and disable end to end encryption for UK users and people messaging UK users, if that would be sufficient to comply. If this lobbying causes the UK to change course, I wonder what impact that wou…
Which entity? I'm not sure the UK would have the mandate to fine a foreign company who's not operating in the UK. They'd just create a company whatsapp UK, license technology, have no other links to meta and have a revenue of about 0.
Dark patterns trick WhatsApp users to enable backups to Google and Apple. If you have them disabled odds are good the other side got tricked into them. Even if your backups are encrypted, it's using only a 64bit key. That means Five Eyes have near real-time access to your "encrypted" messages. Hell, I have to decline backups every time I use WhatsApp on my iPhone, yet after a phone reset all my messages were still th…
If the other party has a back up, my messages will be visible as well or just his?
It wasn't long since there was a discussion where some people were arguing that they can't make moral judgements because disobeying the law would put them in a very difficult situation: