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Everyone I know here (UK) uses WhatsApp as their default communication tool. I have a few friends using Signal or Telegram, but I'd say WhatsApp is by and large the default, at least for my social circle.
It's relatively easy for people to switch, compared to other social networks.
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I believe you don't know the meaning of the term "end-to-end encryption". Obviously the application itself (and the phone) can see the text you put into it, because it has to display that text. "End-to-end encrypted" means "from the moment the text leaves the phone, to the moment the text arrives at the recipient's phone, the text is encrypted such that no intermediate party can read it". You must of course trust or…
That is all good and clear, but its not open source and the government would not need have a back door, they can just request the received messages, or am I wrong here?
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It allows criminals to do bad things, common examples would be CP or terrorism.
Which always makes me wonder, what is the extend of the child pornography problem? How big is the nail compared to the proposed hammer? If I had to guess, I would guess this is hammer affecting 80+ % of the population to go after a group constituting a fraction of a percent of the population.
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#36I can't believe Meta is fighting the good fight for once.
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They say that 98% of users are outside the UK (and those users very likely won't want reduced encryption), so whatsapp would probably just exit the UK.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
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#38Isn't this a red herrring? I thought the law didn't require the removal of E2E encryption, but rather mandated the addition of a back door that submits some kind of meta data summary to a third party service?
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Would you happen to have links to some good reading material on this? People could -eg.- show it to their representatives.
I'm probably not best equipped since I wasn't living in France at the time, but there's a quick summary at the time here: https://www.theregister.com/1999/01/15/france_to_end_severe_...
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#40Call me sceptic, but does not whatsapp see what you are typing when you are creating messages? They need to log the keydown event somehow, right? And the predictive text spits out what it thinks you want to type. And backups are possible even if you never had one before. This is so very dodgy to me. Maybe its e2e from the moment you submit until it arrives at the desired destination. Which brings me to the next issue…
If it ain't open-source, you can't trust it. Signal or GTFO.