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Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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Post by Ancalagon »

RestlessMind wrote: post #320
Ancalagon wrote: post #309

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"Better corp for the world" is subjective. "Pay well" but maybe not quite as well as Meta, and for our purposes I am excluding other FAANGs (except Waymo, sort of I guess): - Roblox - LinkedIn - Robinhood - Databricks - Bytedance - Box - Stripe - Two Sigma - Lyft - Uber - Instacart - Cruise - Doordash - Waymo - Airbnb - Pinterest Companies which imo have a more positive impact on the world than Meta: - Waymo/Cruise (…

Thanks for answering the question honestly. Looking at that list, I can see only LinkedIn / Databricks / Box / Cruise / Waymo as qualifying for "not making the world shittier" criteria. But quitting Meta to go work for another variant of social media like Roblox / Bytedance / Pinterest? Or Airbnb / Uber / Lyft / Instacart with lots of negative externalities by exploiting labor arbitrage? That doesn't really make any…

Sure, but that does answer your original ask. There are options, especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less (or in some cases you can still get a raise by switching) to work at a company that pays well and makes a more positive impact on the world.

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Post by bitL »

jackmott42 wrote: post #159

Back in ~2016 I deleted my Facebook account, because it was a horrible place that brought out the worst in people. A few days ago someone alerted me that my account was live again and posting weight loss scams. So I logged in and changed my password and deleted my account again. Facebook tells you that it will take 30 days to delete your account. This is obviously user hostile bullshit. Meanwhile somehow the scammer…

I deleted my FB account ages ago and two years later a friend pinged me that I should look at my FB account. I was like what account? I never looked there afterwards anyway so not sure what was going on.

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Post by haiti_outlaw »

barbazoo wrote: post #262
kjok wrote: post #253

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> Everyone should quit, get ahead of the layoffs, useless company. Your work there makes the world a worse place. You can do better. This is everything I wanted to say about FB. Always wondered why so many talented folks (with PhDs) choose to work there.

People will say it's their compensation but there are many many places that pay well that don't make the world a shittier place. One doesn't have to sell their soul to the highest bidder.

You can also work there and do the bare minimum until you're fired, cashing in some nice paychecks in the meantime.

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Post by hnav »

BoorishBears wrote: post #310
hnav wrote: post #56

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merging sorted lists is not a leetcode nightmare interview question though, if you can't manage it in an interview, chances are you can't program very well IMO

I saw the question, and thought maybe the recruiter was being literal about it being a formality... So I asked "is a naive implementation fine"? The answer was a quizzical "... well I guess we could start there? But we're probably going to need at least and preferably get to ", so I wrote out a completely naive implementation and switched to questions. - But you're right, I can't program. Not memorizing elaborate cac…

The problem is that if your company is routinely hiring people on their accolades (or just trust me bro) alone, you'll eventually end up with people who _can't_ merge linked-lists. The FAANG model of making people solve BS programming puzzles at least guarantees that a person is a try-hard or is capable of slinging some code, which its own issues aside is better than the baseline of charlatans who don't know anything. Outside of FAANGs I've routinely interacted with fairly senior engineers who just could not code, period, full stop. Maybe you can scale to 100s of engineers without the stupid interview gimmicks, but you won't hire 1000s engineers who _can_ actually code without ascertaining that they posses some logic, and if their rote memorization is so good as to be indistinguishable from general intelligence, so be it, they're passing the turing test :)

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Post by djkivi »

Panini_Jones wrote: post #49
discordance wrote: post #40

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I've noticed more uncertainty, less comradery, a general malaise, lack of motivation and a lot less trust in the organization. A very very different feeling to a year ago.

Have we seen this happen in the past? Did Microsoft go through a general sense of despondency when it cut people in 2009? Did it recover?

https://minimsft.blogspot.com/

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Post by blsapologist42 »

N19PEDL2 wrote: post #236
mupuff1234 wrote: post #169

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Isn't Instagram already blocked in China?

I was thinking more about the EU actually. After banning TikTok, it won't be long before someone says, "hey, Instagram steals people's personal data too."

Meta has to follow all the EU regulations around data privacy. Does TikTok?

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Post by blsapologist42 »

megaman8 wrote: post #273
muro wrote: post #252

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> Do people go to work at Facebook[1], Amazon, etc., expecting to still be working there long enough to see their kids graduate and go off to college? Sure, why not?

most people at these companies don't last very long. if you doubt that, just take a look at the average person's linkedIn or resume. You'll see the average tenure at a tech company is about 2 to 3 years.

Maybe in the boom times. Now with the market attrition rates are more in line with 6-10 yr stints.

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Post by pixelprizm »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #90
arda_demirtas wrote: post #76

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I hate the attitude, the language and the fact that these people are running this world. "Approved, you go ahead" Just drains my energy and hope for the future.

I think Musk is a breath of fresh air from the sterile, managed, corporate-speak drones. He already proved a lot of... "experts" wrong about the imminent implosion of twitter after he got rid of a bunch of people. I'm very interested to see how things go in the next few years. Here's his side of the story on that. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 I have worked in companies with a lot of dead wo…

I think the problem with this take is that even though he's "shaking up" corporate culture, it's not, like, in a good way. Just randomness. More fun for the public to watch but I don't think we have many signs that any results are good.

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Post by bitL »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #111
robertlagrant wrote: post #95

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He must regret daily going for Metaverse. What a crazy move.

> What a crazy move. Not at all! Done right, we could have ended up in a sci-fi future strapped to our VR headsets all day long. But the real life, physical technology is just not here yet (maybe it's impossible and never will be), the software they invented for their lacking headsets is disgustingly bad (Horizon Worlds) and there is no nameworthy content. I assume his advisors and tech leads all pulled the wool over…

The only thing that is vastly better in VR than in reality are horror games. While one can laugh on how silly/unfrightening the movie nightmare on the Elm street is, a proper VR jump scare can easily lead to a heart attack when following some quiet period of gameplay. Not sure if this was the intended effect as it would likely reduce the number of consumers once for all.

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Post by Laaas »

saagarjha wrote: post #60
jillesvangurp wrote: post #58

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Yes they do. The trick is not throwing out the baby with the bath water. Elon Musk got a lot of criticism for how he handled layoffs at Twitter. But he did provide clarity and then ripped off the band aid. Notice how things have gone quiet around Twitter lately. IMHO, it wasn't nice but what remains is probably a healthier organization and a fairly stable team. A lot of people left in the process and that was always…

> Notice how things have gone quiet around Twitter lately. This was today: https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633253950198624257

And he apologises for firing him after humiliating him in public!

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