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Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Post by halfjoking »

sverhagen wrote: post #75
systematical wrote: post #61

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way ahead of what? not github/lab

Yeah... I can't believe some of the people commenting here. When there's an article about China, and there's comments in defense of the CCP, we suspect trolls. But my experiences with every single Atlassian product are so bad that I can't help myself thinking that there's some sort of troll army at work here from the Atlassian Marketing department. Or my experiences with Atlassian have just been non-representatively…

Can’t speak for their other products but Bitbucket had free private repos first.

Now that I have a bunch of personal projects there, there’s no reason to switch. In 10 years the service was only down a couple of times. And I like the Web UI - I don’t think GitHub’s Web UI is any better.

So my experience using Bitbucket hasn’t been like living under the CCP. Maybe if I tried Jira I’d think differently?

Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Post by afishisafish »

112233 wrote: post #102
afishisafish wrote: post #100

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That's perfectly configurable in 5 minutes with an automation. Jira out of the box doesn't make your company suddenly more productive. Just like Office 365 doesn't magically work. You need good governance, administration / configuration and proper training to make it generate added value.

No it is not. It is perfectly solvable by dedicated specialist that has long time experience maintainig jira, knows how to interact with jira api, has budget to by licenses for third party plugins that implement such basic functionality etc. If you ask "normal" it person to do this, i'd like to see those 5 minutes

You really don't need to go through the API.

Jira automations are installed out of the box. No third party plugins needed.

It's very very basic jira administration, and it's one of the more powerful tools jira has to offer:

https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/features/automation

Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

Cogito wrote: post #121
AlotOfReading wrote: post #69

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As someone who is fervently anti-jira, it wouldn't be that hard to make it tolerable. Just make it so that I can't measure page loads with a wall-clock (I've clocked multi-minute loads before) that need 3-7 clicks to get where I need to be. Don't have an abundance of weird subviews that hide half the editable fields I use for another half that I don't. Make the currently active filters clear. So on and so forth, just…

I used to consult on JIRA a while back. These complaints seem like they have a couple of potential causes. One very common load time issue is downloading too much data at once, especially on boards. I understand some work has been done to make this better, but you may get some relief by creating new boards with very limited number of issues on it - you want the board's primary filter to be specific (eg a board just f…

> I used to consult on JIRA a while back.

If consultants exist for a product, you know up-front that the product is intended as an "enterprise," end-all-be-all product, intended to be bought by high-level people, implemented by middle-level people, and configured to frustrate low-level people. It's not the product; it's the implementation, and it's a misalignment of incentives. Most companies big enough to afford JIRA are going to have the same kind of middle layer that winds up making people complain about JIRA on forums like this.

Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Post by edanm »

parimal7 wrote: post #145
edanm wrote: post #104

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> 9000 people who make products that suck should do something else with their lives. So you not liking some products isn't just grounds for you not using a product, isn't just grounds for telling other people not to use the product, it's grounds for everyone working at the company that makes that product , related to it or not, to be fired. That's one hell of a leap from your opinion to ideas about what's best for th…

I can no longer tell the difference between most HN and Reddit comments. Shallow, hateful and opinionated.

I'm not sure if you're referring to my comment or to parents'. (Not a good sign for my comment I guess :|).

But just FYI that complaining about HN going the way of Reddit is very frowned upon here (if not outright against the rules, I don't remember.)

It's also fairly unoriginal - people have been complaining that HN is becoming Reddit since HN was created, more or less. We're talking a good 10+ years of this complaint.

Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers

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Post by noisy_boy »

Based on the shitting on Jira going on in this thread, seems like Atlassian have an opportunity to introduce a (optional) simplified-UI that focuses on solving the most common workflow. Something like IntelliJ's "new" UI that reduces the clutter in the main screen (all the original knobs are still available in the Settings dialog).
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