bitbucket is a solid product on its own but it's no where comparable to the social network and sheer volume of github and usability of github copilot.
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Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
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#132They’ve been a bit over bloated for a while and honestly too many better alternatives out there
They did recently kill off their option to run on-prem, so that probably reduces the support burden.
It also massively reduces their potential customer base in all the industries that are typically more resilient to recession.
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9000 people who make products that suck should do something else with their lives. Does that mean they will lose their jobs? Yes. It's still the best outcome for the world and those people will get other jobs, hopefully making better products.
It's really nice to have an alternative to github. Say what you want about bitbucket, but people have been banned from github for pretty fickle reasons, so it's nice that they can still host repositories somewhere else for free.
Do you run GitHub enterprise on prem? I'm curious because I'm always surprised when I see companies that haven't banned Microsoft server GitHub. Seems like a massive risk.
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>... I really don't get the hatred. The hatred pretty much comes directly from the fact that as developers we are not the customer, just the user. What do developers want? Not to wait for flipping ever on every damn mouse click. To be as fast and minimal as possible. Stay out of the way so I can get work done. What does the customer (the person who selects the product and signs away company $ for it) To "manage" deve…
I believe misery for Atlassian products were mostly self inflicted by companies that insisted on having it on-perm and then not giving a damn about upgrades and not giving a damn about resources to maintain it. I work with JIRA cloud for 8 years now and while there are hiccups it just works.
We use selfhosted Gitlab and I do regularly report bugs in the Qt bugtracker that uses JIRA. GitLab is light years ahead of JIRA for even the basic task like adding a links, images or searching for issues. The UI is slow and cumbersome to work with.
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#136If only the world could shed 95% of Atlassian products
Which one would you keep?
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postman, another shit product.
I actually find postman quite useful for the work I do (heavily api-related) - if you work in that space, what other tools would you recommend instead?
IMO Postman is a good tool. On alternatives though, https://httpie.io/ is pretty nice too.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
>... I really don't get the hatred. The hatred pretty much comes directly from the fact that as developers we are not the customer, just the user. What do developers want? Not to wait for flipping ever on every damn mouse click. To be as fast and minimal as possible. Stay out of the way so I can get work done. What does the customer (the person who selects the product and signs away company $ for it) To "manage" deve…
I believe misery for Atlassian products were mostly self inflicted by companies that insisted on having it on-perm and then not giving a damn about upgrades and not giving a damn about resources to maintain it. I work with JIRA cloud for 8 years now and while there are hiccups it just works.
It's slow though. Our on-prem Jira was much faster than the cloud one.
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I'll say it, it sucks and its slow. The company I started at recently uses it and I hate it so much. Scrolling through a PR, viewing comments in a PR, adding comments in a PR, its all so clunky and GH Actions destroys BB pipelines. It's crap.
I have many a times shouted at my computer over the stupidity that is Bitbucket. And I honestly cannot believe or understand that people at Atlassian are using it themselves. I hate the term dogfooding, but how often do these people have to walk into the same walls that I walk into, before they go and improve a thing? Sure, I get it, they're working on enterprise features that make them (more) money. But then don't h…
Atlassian is competing with GitHub and you can't understand why they would ban it?