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Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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I can only talk from my own experience, I've launched several websites that became high ranking on Google solely because of content and speed. Without anybody linking to them. Hell, there's still nobody linking to them years later, and Google still keeps them highly ranked. In niches with well established competitors. Without Google, I doubt I would have had any chance to reach a public, because nobody except search…

You seem to be providing a brilliant explanation why Google has failed -> I don't need to be found, I need to find a specific piece of information. It's a report by a major university about children. It's basically impossible to find. The university probably has crap website, maybe it's slow, it doesn't follow google guidelines - but so what? As a consumer, I don't care if the website is fast, if it's providing wrong…

Google has seen a massive decline in quality and they are a company of very questionable morals. I think it's fair to say they are evil.

Still, Google is the reason millions of people can make a living, who would have been locked out of their industry by gate keepers if search engines didn't exist.

The standard static HTML website that can be found by Google is vastly superior to social media offerings. Creators and businesses can not sell their products through social media like Instagram, because you can not even put a link unless you purchase their spy ads. With crusty old WordPress you can create great online publications and articles as long as you want - no popular social media offers that.

The general public use the internet exclusively for social media, and at most a couple of web sites for work or other functions. That is because the general public has an insatiable appetite for mindless entertainment. That doesn't mean the traditional web has failed, it's still there and Google is still king on that hill. The social media hordes are the same people who would be glued in front of the TV in the past. Social media attention and likes are close to worthless in the end for creators and businesses. I'd rather have 100 customers brought by Google and a traditional web site, than 1 000 000 Instagram likes from people looking at my post for 0.03 seconds while scrolling. When people are looking for important information or want to make a purchase online, they go by Google almost all of the time, and almost never by social media.

> They are willing to take that deal over what google is offering. Maybe Google should have parted with some of the profit to convince content creators not to go to closed platforms.

Google is not taking anything from anybody. You can index your content with them for free, and they will send visitors to your site. Social media will just use your content to get eyeballs for their own ads.

The average business owner treats their traditional website as an annoying hassle, when it could be a window into the world and massively increase their sales and customer service. They love social media, because Facebook and Instagram feeds them like and heart icons.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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The most tragic casualty of this is the ancient wisdom of just google your tech issues. It doesn't work any more! All you get is page upon page of auto-generated help sites that pretend to have solutions for your exact problem but are all actually the same list of generic tips (restart your computer! update your drivers!) I can sort through it with enough effort, but it's a disaster for non-tech people who could mudd…

Stack Overflow is to blame for that. With the best of intentions they make their data open, resulting in hundreds of clone sites regurgitating the stack overflow data, on sites with names like “ProblemGeek” and “NerdAnswer”.

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Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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> We all have to sift. Sifting videos is tedious and time-consuming. Sifting text is much more efficient.

Yes, but sometimes the nugget you need might not be in the text at all.

True, and equally, it may not be in the video.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Honestly the problem is that Google has been trying to fix it. Alternative and diverse incomes is the solution. Everyone wants to make a good product, but ads make a product worse. Everyone wants to make a heavily used product but pay-per-use or subscriptions are limiting. Google Cloud+Workplace, YouTube Premium, Play Store, Nest, ahem Stadia. Google has plenty of attempts at building products that make money without…

> Everyone wants to make a good product Well, most do, but certainly not everyone. What almost everyone wants to make is a profitable product.

> What almost everyone wants to make is a profitable product

I actually think Google and many tech companies have the opposite problem. They forget about monetization until after they made a desirable product, then they have no way to make money unless they shoe-horn ads into it.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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I would dislike that. Imagine if every single thing you say to your friends while being in a public space was recorded for everyone to see in the future... The point of a chat is to be ephemeral. Otherwise it would just be a forum with really bad and chaotic content.

Archiving and indexing public IRC or Discord isn't the same as putting up microphones everywhere to listen to conversations between friends.

Why not? The microphones wouldn't be everywhere, just in specific places where people like to go to socialize. Say a study room at Uni for example... imagine all the "good knowledge" we are missing by not recording every single word students say at Uni and making it publicly searchable. Right?

Even if you could always go to another Uni, it's still annoying and bad.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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In the last year by coincidence I had to buy several quite expensive items that I either never bought before or bought last time quite a while ago. So, I wanted reviews. That's when I learned just searching for reviews is pretty much useless now. It's all blanketed by marketing spam. What you do instead is find a place where real humans discuss the topic, and read it. Doesn't have to be reddit, though it often works. Pretty soon you encounter mentions of review sites that people mention. Once you see some site mentioned repeatedly, go there and search. Or, if they have sulky search - happens more often than it should - go to the search engine and search on that specific site. This gives much better results without wasting time digging through piles of crap.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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post #263

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To me all signs point to Reddit never having been a commercial venture, but rather an influence and propaganda machine for United States government agencies. So they already have their budget paid.

What are "all signs"? Shit you made up in your head? It's owned by China for godsakes, what a half-baked conspiracy theory

Reddit isn't owned by tencent, where did you get that from?

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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post #263

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What are "all signs"? Shit you made up in your head? It's owned by China for godsakes, what a half-baked conspiracy theory

Reddit isn't owned by tencent, where did you get that from?

> In February 2019, a $300 million funding round led by Tencent brought the company's valuation to $3 billion.[16]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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The worst is the SEO pages, especially for popular how-to topics. Every single first page result will be a page that has expanded what used to be said in bullet point form, into a 1500 word essay that you must now slog through in order to get the information you need. And this is by necessity, because Google values prose over bullet points. The majority of things that come up on search nowadays consist of computer-ge…

Limit your search to Reddit, HN and/or Stack Exchange! I really loved the first paragraph of the article about Reddit: "Reddit is currently the most popular search engine. The only people who don’t know that are the team at Reddit". I want to add this that just happened at my company, that shows really bad execution on the Reddit side. Bad as if the current Reddit management is surfing tiny waves in some paradise. Ou…

>Limit your search to Reddit, HN and/or Stack Exchange!

I would love something like swurl [1] but just with those three!

[1] https://swurl.com/

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