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Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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Aside: Was that blog post taken from Twitter? If not, Twitter has profoundly affected the way the author writes. Nearly every "paragraph" is a single sentence, and the longest of them is just 300 characters. I imagine it must be difficult to tell a story if you write it in a style where your paragraphs resemble bullet points! Perhaps, though, it might work if it's very dialog-heavy, and if the characters are noir-lac…

> Twitter has profoundly affected the way the author writes. This is wild speculation. Newspaper journalism has always tended toward paragraphs of one or two short sentences at most. It's a stylistic choice born partly out of the physical constraints of newspaper layouts, but it also makes articles easy to skim, and the information density tends to be high. This style has always been shared with news articles online,…

> but it also makes articles easy to skim, and the information density tends to be high

I don't think the information density was high enough here that each sentence warranted its own paragraph.

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

#42

The author uses a one-sentence writing style ubiquitous in "long-form" ad copy. You say one thing. Then another. And another. See how it hooks you? And makes you want to read further? Me neither. But apparently it "works" very well.

Totally anecdotal but a lot of people seem to really struggle reading long paragraphs these days. So yeah it probably works for those people.

The paragraphs need to be visually formatted correctly. Correct width and spacing and such. Adding more line breaks doesn't help people read. It frustrates them because now they have to skip 5 "paragraphs" to get to the next talking point.

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

#43

Aside: Was that blog post taken from Twitter? If not, Twitter has profoundly affected the way the author writes. Nearly every "paragraph" is a single sentence, and the longest of them is just 300 characters. I imagine it must be difficult to tell a story if you write it in a style where your paragraphs resemble bullet points! Perhaps, though, it might work if it's very dialog-heavy, and if the characters are noir-lac…

A paragraph break should be heavier than a sentence break. If every idea is its own paragraph, then paragraphs are no longer a meaningful part of your structure. It's exactly the same as if he simply wrote a wall of text in one giant paragraph -- in both cases, he's getting no organizational value from the structure.

Good writers craft paragraphs the same way they craft an overall idea. It's structured, organized thought all the way down. The author of TFA couldn't be bothered to do any of that. He's leaving it up to you do figure out the structure from his -- not wall; soup? -- of text. He's being lazy and a shit writer, and it's vastly detracting from what he has to say.

Of course, the actual message of TFA is "I'm a shit writer so I rely on an overused brain-SEO shortcut to bludgeon my readers into being interested instead of actually writing something that's valuable to them." So I guess the style fits.

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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post #16

This post’s writing markedly improved right when it started talking about teaching board games and dropped right when it stopped. I think it’s because the author’s passion for this anecdote about teaching board games distracted them from consciously applying that peculiar staccato style. I don’t know the reason for the staccato style. Self-imposed onto their content because it’s good for engagement? A technique for g…

> The linguistic analogue of chronic traumatic encephalopathy, brought on by repeated Twitter concussions?

Not sure if you did that on purpose, but your comment just blew my mind. Concussion as in “total absence of discussion.” Love it!

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

imho that story should have ended like: "I didn't say that" - Plato

It's been done to death already. e.g. https://www.redbubble.com/i/art-board-print/Plato-I-Didn-t-S... Some variants: Einstein https://innovativewealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Eins... Lincoln https://innovativewealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/quot... Buddha https://superaalifragilistic.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/new...

Or Yogi Berra https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/12/30/yogi-didnt-say/

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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post #38
post #14

The other day I was aimlessly browsing through Youtube, and I found a video by a man named Ira Glass. I had never heard of him but apparently he's a famous NPR journalist. He told a story about how in English class he learned to start with a theses and then explain facts. But, in broadcasting, he learned that doesn't work. Instead, you start with an anecdote - the purest form of a story. Ira pointed out that humans a…

I hate that this style is shoehorned into absolutely everything, though. I can barely stand to read most nonfiction books anymore, even highly regarded ones about subjects I'm interested in. The part of my brain that likes a good story is very different than the one that's ready to refine my model of the universe, and it's jarring to have Malcom Gladwell artificially stitching together unrelated events, people, and i…

Non-fiction is a vast universe and Malcom Gladwell is a famously superficial writer. The torrent of books getting to market each years is never high in average quality. But I never had a problem finding good factual content to read.

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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post #14

The other day I was aimlessly browsing through Youtube, and I found a video by a man named Ira Glass. I had never heard of him but apparently he's a famous NPR journalist. He told a story about how in English class he learned to start with a theses and then explain facts. But, in broadcasting, he learned that doesn't work. Instead, you start with an anecdote - the purest form of a story. Ira pointed out that humans a…

> Instead, you start with an anecdote This also works in math. Best professor I had, he spent half of the lesson explaining the life and motivations of some mathematician (Riemann, Fourier, Weierstrass, ...), and why he was so obsesed with such and such problem. He surely added a lot of salt and pepper to his story. Then, once everybody was craving for the technical details, he stated the main result and told us just…

I find this especially effective for teaching maths, because schools have been trying to de-contextualise and impart the mechanics of algebra for decades. This completely misses the point, because every advance in the history of mathematics has been towards solving some specific and well formulated problem.

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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post #16

This post’s writing markedly improved right when it started talking about teaching board games and dropped right when it stopped. I think it’s because the author’s passion for this anecdote about teaching board games distracted them from consciously applying that peculiar staccato style. I don’t know the reason for the staccato style. Self-imposed onto their content because it’s good for engagement? A technique for g…

> The linguistic analogue of chronic traumatic encephalopathy, brought on by repeated Twitter concussions? Not sure if you did that on purpose, but your comment just blew my mind. Concussion as in “total absence of discussion.” Love it!

;)

Re: You just gotta tell a good story

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post #47
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that this style is shoehorned into absolutely everything, though. I can barely stand to read most nonfiction books anymore, even highly regarded ones about subjects I'm interested in. The part of my brain that likes a good story is very different than the one that's ready to refine my model of the universe, and it's jarring to have Malcom Gladwell artificially stitching together unrelated events, people, and i…

Non-fiction is a vast universe and Malcom Gladwell is a famously superficial writer. The torrent of books getting to market each years is never high in average quality. But I never had a problem finding good factual content to read.

A good counterexample is Robert Sapolsky. He uses a lot of storytelling and anecdotes in his scientific teachings and lectures.

His writing is amazing, his lectures even more so.

Here's an example lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYcSuyLiJk

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