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Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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> Ironically, this tells me some... awkward things about how the author relates to their kitchen. It also says a lot about how the author relates to restaurants, where a faster dishwasher is a selling point. Faster is separately important from throughput, because if it the takes 3 hours to run the dish washer, that’s a lot of plates that need to be washed and stacked all at once for a restaurant, and a lot of dishwas…

Tbf, commercial dishwashers are totally different type of device than home dishwashers.

Yeah the domestic variety, dont rinse the cleaning chemicals off the dishes properly, so they always stink of gunk after they have been cleaned.

I think it would be healthier to employer someone to wash and rinse dishes properly, like a servant.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Mine just... pops open by itself.

When I was dishwasher shopping last, this feature alone cost almost $200. As in I could get exactly the same dish washer with exactly same features, other than the auto open, and pay $200 less.

Wow, I literally got the cheapest dishwasher at Costco.com and it has this feature. I bought my dishwasher within the last year.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Dishwasher cycles have been getting longer and longer and it’s a pain in the neck. Give me back my hour long cycle and actually clean dishes, please.

My dishwasher (a Samsung) has an "60 minute express wash" option.

I've never used it in a full load, but it works well when I have a smaller load.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Commercial kitchen ones, one single tray load, washed in 120s, comes out hot as fire so they air dry quick.

Came here to say this. I worked a lot in commercial kitchens as a dishwasher during college time and I love the commercial dishwashers. Super solid, superfast, super high powered, mostly super effective except for the really really greasy stains on plates or where you need to scrub some slow cooking trays or pots. I’ve always wanted to buy one from my house. From what I remember we have three cycles: a 60 second a 90…

1. they’re really de-greasers, you have to pre-wash the plates

2. the surfactants used are suspected to destroy the gut barrier, because they aren’t being washed off for speed reasons, unlike consumer models

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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> In the same way, people don’t buy a dishwasher, they buy clean dishes before their next meal. Ironically, this tells me some... awkward things about how the author relates to their kitchen. I cook - a lot. I host parties - usually dinner parties - and I use cheap Ikea plates & etc instead of disposable anythings. And like (most?) millenials-ish, the kitchen is where we tend to hang out. My dishwasher isn't so that…

A dishwasher buys the convenience of not doing the dishes. That frees your time in itself and in general the time it takes the dishwasher to run is not critical.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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> In the same way, people don’t buy a dishwasher, they buy clean dishes before their next meal. Ironically, this tells me some... awkward things about how the author relates to their kitchen. I cook - a lot. I host parties - usually dinner parties - and I use cheap Ikea plates & etc instead of disposable anythings. And like (most?) millenials-ish, the kitchen is where we tend to hang out. My dishwasher isn't so that…

A dishwasher buys the convenience of not doing the dishes. That frees your time in itself and in general the time it takes the dishwasher to run is not critical.

> in general the time it takes the dishwasher to run is not critical

I have children. They use plates, bowls, cups, cutlery, more bowls, more plates, more cups. I have only limited room for additional dishes. Dishes better be done before dinner or else somebody is going to have bad time. And generally if someone in the family is having bad time then everybody is going to have bad time.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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From the manual Cycle Completion Signal The cycle completion signal alerts you when a cycle completes and the dishwasher has washed and dried the dishes. You can choose to disable the tone or adjust the volume. NOTE: The unit must be powered OFF before activating. To activate: • Press and hold the right "Cancel Reset" button then press and hold the ON/OFF button. • When the light on the "Cancel Reset" button you are…

It's the oldest trope since BBS's, if you want free expert information how to do something, just go on any forum and say it wrong, and 20 neckbeards will step all over each other to provide the most correct most efficient most elegant directions. I'm guilty myself. It's a fine tradition I have no problem with. ;)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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The big one for me in a large consulting business has been watching the account people try to sell enterprises on Blockchain for various use cases. It's just funny because it's like, these customers don't need a zero trust structure for their transactions. They have a directory usually AAD they implicitly trust because they hire the people they put into it.

And companies don't want decentralization. The entire purpose of most conglomerates is conspicuous centralization. It is funny that we see corporations strictly as competitive actors. But often when one company buys another, they are trying to realize efficiencies through cooperation. Therefore, much like being an government bureau, corporations are trying to create cooperative centralizations.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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You may or may not have seen Technology Connections' many, many videos on the subject of dishwashers. The tl; dr is: * use the basic powder stuff * put some of the basic powder stuff in the "pre wash" section * if your washer doesn't have a prewash, sprinkle a little on the inside * turn the sink water on hot until it's producing hot water before starting the dishwasher * if your dishwasher has a filter for food, che…

I found this to be bad advice. I switched to the basic powder stuff for a while and my dishes were always horrible. Went back to Cascade Platinum pods and I've never had a problem.

As America's Test Kitchen said a very long time ago, use the pods that have as many different colors as you can find. Those Cascade Platinum pods are great.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Slow dishwasher is a huge pain. When relatives visit and join dinner (and they do so often) I end up with more dishes than I can fit in the dishwasher. I can wash the remaining dishes the next morning, but this wastes energy and water because the dishwasher is not full. I can also "preventatively" turn on the dishes in the afternoon, to wash the breakfast and lunch dishes, so that it's completely empty for the dinner…

YMMV, but our Bosch dishwasher has 5 modes and one of them is "party" mode. When selected, the machine first preheats water for 30 minutes and then you can load it repeatedly, each load only takes 10 minutes to wash. It does have two drawbacks though. First, you have to use liquid detergent, as tablets do not dissolve fast enough. Second, it consumes a lot of power and water as opposed to the regular 3h+ setting. But it is handy if you ever need to wash a lot of stuff fast.
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