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Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. > then hired scholars from the city's pre-existing lay and ecclesiastical schools to teach them subjects such as liberal arts, notarial law, theology, and ars dictaminis (scrivenery) > The university is historically notable for its teaching of canon and civil law Please note the phrases .. ecc…

Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school (which is different from being a secular, non-religious school, that would be a false dichotomy) because there theology was just one of the disciplines as it also included a multitude of topics in addition to religion, in contrast to the many contemporary religious schools around the world which taught only priests.

> Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school ..

Those fragments are simultaneously true for Nalanda or any other school too.

Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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If you're suggesting that the University of Bologna was secular (not religious) in the 11th century, then that is misleading. > then hired scholars from the city's pre-existing lay and ecclesiastical schools to teach them subjects such as liberal arts, notarial law, theology, and ars dictaminis (scrivenery) > The university is historically notable for its teaching of canon and civil law Please note the phrases .. ecc…

Please note all the other phrases in the fragments you're quoting - Bologna is not a religious school (which is different from being a secular, non-religious school, that would be a false dichotomy) because there theology was just one of the disciplines as it also included a multitude of topics in addition to religion, in contrast to the many contemporary religious schools around the world which taught only priests.

Nalanda covered many non-religious topics as well?

Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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I went to the university in Salamanca Spain, founded 1218. There were a lot of old buildings, but nowhere was there a Salamanca U t-shirt as a souvenir (and FYI, the Rome University sweatshirts aren't official--the biz school sells some polos, but that's it).

Exactly. The BBC must show us a Nalanda U hoodie, with a copyrighted logo, or else abandon these wild claims! Did this so-called 'university' even have a lacrosse team??

Irony notice: this comment contains irony.

Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=baccalaureus&old...

Please check this discourse on the matter, perhaps someone can further research on original etymology of the Bachelor word [1]. I have read before about the origin of the convocation robe from the fruits gown but it's rather comical IMHO. The more plausible explanation is that they want to copy the learned people at the medieval time, i.e. Arabic speaking people, during the European dark ages by imitating the Arabic…

That's only more plausible if you're entirely unfamiliar with Christian clerical and liturgical garments. Traditional Christian religious garments are rooted to a large extent in the Mediterranean, especially Greece, the Levant, and North Africa, but none of those places would be centers of Arabic culture until centuries later. To the extent they're influenced by Arabic culture, the link probably goes both ways. There's a shared history, after all; shared at a time when what would become modern European and Arabic cultures were minority cultures at the periphery of far more ancient empires.

Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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Propaganda is a strong term that suggests an ulterior motive. What is the ulterior motive here for calling Nalanda a university?

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India has a rich history than far pre-dates 'hindus' from Indus Valley Civilization to this day. On top of it Nalanda as Buddhist institution of learning is being highlighted here.

If you are going to define what is historical truth or propaganda based on who resides in the PMO of India, then you should just stay away from this subject.

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If they called it an academy, would that be better?

Sure? There are lots of resonable terms. And I don't want to denegrate Nalanda nor its historical import. But Bologna invented the concept and coined the term to specifically describe a new kind of institution with certain critical and (for the time) novel characteristics which carry on in modern universities. I think describing Nalanda as a university is like saying the Blue Mosque is a cathedral. It's an impressive and important religious building in of itself: but it's not a cathedral.

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In a similar way it’s possible to quibble over the definition of the word democracy.

If the ability of women to vote is considered essential for democracy, then the world’s oldest democracy is New Zealand and not the US.

But rather than going by dictated definitions, if we go by popular perceptions of the words, then Nalanda is a university and US became a democracy before New Zealand.

Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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Time and again Indians prove themselves to be the most self-hating community of them all. Not everything has an agenda. > Hindus were subjugated by Muslims and English Which is historically true. All of North India has zero temples or structures of historic importance that are more than a few hundred years old. A Bihari Hindu should not have to go searching in Tamil Nadu for signs that his ancestors achieved things o…

There is no self hate going on. What we are saying is that India was on par with rest of the world. Lets just have an objective assessment of its's past instead of white washing everything that is old.

For example, we (collectively) do not know anything about drawbacks of Nalanda university. All we heard since childhood is that it is great

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