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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by shellfishgene »

hwillis wrote: post #35
goblinux wrote: post #13

My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

I've got a couple devices that are useable from my phone only. My first reaction to your comment was "why not have a wifi status page for my dishwasher?" Hell, you could put a 90 cent weight sensor on the racks to tell you when they've actually been unloaded vs. the door has just been opened. On the other hand I don't want another damn app. Why is all that crap bluetooth and phone-only? Why can't I install these thin…

You need home assistant or something silmilar. It's more of a hobby than a convenience though ;)

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by nemo44x »

iso1631 wrote: post #75
nemo44x wrote: post #21

Pro tip about your home dishwasher: Run hot water out of your faucet until it’s extremely hot before starting your dishwasher. (Considering the faucet and dishwasher use the same plumbing to pipe water in) The reason why is dishwashers line to do a rinse in the first cycle and for most people the water isn’t hot enough. So it fills up with lukewarm water and isn’t as effective. Another option is to have a hot water c…

Every dishwasher I've owned has a cold water inlet and uses electricity to heat the water to the required temperature.

Maytag says your wrong:

https://www.maytag.com/blog/kitchen/do-dishwashers-use-hot-w...

It they were installed wrong. The heating element just helps keep it warm. It won’t make it hot enough.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by nemo44x »

Macha wrote: post #50
nemo44x wrote: post #21

Pro tip about your home dishwasher: Run hot water out of your faucet until it’s extremely hot before starting your dishwasher. (Considering the faucet and dishwasher use the same plumbing to pipe water in) The reason why is dishwashers line to do a rinse in the first cycle and for most people the water isn’t hot enough. So it fills up with lukewarm water and isn’t as effective. Another option is to have a hot water c…

Depends where you live, houses here usually have separate hot and cold water feeds and the dishwashers take only a cold input, relying on an internal heating element if they need hot water.

Not according to Maytag:

https://www.maytag.com/blog/kitchen/do-dishwashers-use-hot-w...

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by hanifc »

dale_glass wrote: post #72

I think this is going a bit too far. Sometimes it's perfectly legitimate to serve an ideological need, because there's enough people with that particular ideology. Eg, things like Mastodon are great if you want to find a community that best fits you, because you have a rare interest or some characteristic controversial for a reason or another that makes existing on some place like Twitter difficult. So you can find a…

> I think this is going a bit too far. Sometimes it's perfectly legitimate to serve an ideological need, because there's enough people with that particular ideology.

The author would probably agree.

> Or they’re only better ideologically, and in that case, only valuable to those who share the same ideology. Which is fine if the market for that ideology is big.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by thiht »

bradleyjg wrote: post #9

Dishwasher cycles have been getting longer and longer and it’s a pain in the neck. Give me back my hour long cycle and actually clean dishes, please.

Not sure what you're putting in your dishwasher, but FWIW I have a 30 minutes / 60°C cycle on my dishwasher (off-brand) that I use when I forgot to run it at night. Dishes come out clean as new.

The eco cycle I use at night is 50°C and longer (not sure how long, that's why I run it at night) and everything always come out clean as well.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by iso1631 »

eru wrote: post #63
iso1631 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus powercuts, plus them drifting.

If you have a clock that shuts off when the power is cut, you don't need to worry about drifting: Most of those are synchronized to the grid, and the grid keeps time really, really well. They actually synchronize the grid to atomic clocks etc for that purpose.

I have clocks in various mains powered devices that will drift noticeably over a couple of months. Some survive small brownouts, some don't, I have one which will last for a decent length cut.

I'd wager all of them get timing from an internal oscilator driven by a low-voltage DC supply and have no mains frequency or voltage anywhere near them.

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Post by Ekaros »

expertentipp wrote: post #24
goblinux wrote: post #13

My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

Does it have a digital clock? Adjusting the bloody clocks on every appliance twice a year is such fun.

Mine is integrated... Meaning behind fake door...

So no visible clock... But also no visible indicator of how long it will go on... I might prefer the incorrect time to that...

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #54
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The LG washing machine in my apartment has a lot of chimes (even on the ZZZ quiet mode). And it doesn't appear there is a way to disable them. It's really irritating.

We disabled them on our LG. How to do so may be hidden well however.

Just found the manual and I might have a solution. I pressed two buttons simultaneously but there is no feedback. So we'll see if this works.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by speed_spread »

goblinux wrote: post #13

My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

I'm pretty certain that's not an engineer's feature but rather the great idea of a product manager answering to marketing concerns wanting to make the product more "human" or some shit like that. The engineer sighed, implemented the thing, kept his job and moved on.

BTW, my Samsung _played a 30 second song_ (loudly beeping) when it was done. I think it was Schubert or something? And again, no documented way to shut it up permanently. Super fun at 2am to be when woken up by a machine that you bought because it's supposed to be quiet.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by bradleyjg »

krisroadruck wrote: post #31
bradleyjg wrote: post #9

Dishwasher cycles have been getting longer and longer and it’s a pain in the neck. Give me back my hour long cycle and actually clean dishes, please.

You can blame detergent regulations for this. About a decade or so back phosphates were banned from detergents. The problem is that was the thing that made them work really well. In order to compensate for less effective detergents, cycle times have gotten longer. Phosphate detergents are still available in commercial soaps, but I don't recommend skirting the regs here as they had some solid reasoning (algae blooms).…

Aren’t phosphates a critical component of fertilizer? I’d think that’d be a far larger source of runoff than dishwashers.
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