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Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by counttheforks » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 6:47 PM UTC

injidup wrote: post #33

sebzim4500 wrote: post #24

Is there anything stopping anyone from using this for commercial purposes? I know that when you fill in the google form you need to agree to noncommercial use, but someone downloading this will never have agreed to that licence agreement.

I don't know. Is there anything stopping you using the latest Miley Cyrus album for commercial purposes if you downloaded it via torrent and never agreed to any licencing terms?

That's what Facebook and OpenAI are doing. They consumed tons of copyrighted content without permission and are now using it for commercial purposes. So using their model seems fair game.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by angelbar » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 1:42 AM UTC

passion__desire wrote: post #254

cellshade wrote: post #237

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This is pretty much the premise of the movie "Her".

The upgrade killed "Her" in the movie. lol

The situation where that "They" where living too fast to be related to the human experience. It where too painful slow to them.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by charcircuit » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 2:53 AM UTC

counttheforks wrote: post #680

charcircuit wrote: post #532

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that would be a derivative work

You mean like how the model itself is a derivative work of tons of copyrighted content? If the original model can sidestep the issue of being trained on copyrighted content, then it should be fair game to train a new model off of a copyrighted model.

Yes, the model is a derivative work of its training data, but the difference is that a model is transformative. Llama is not a replacement for reading some book. On the other hand a fine tuned model built upon llama is much less transformative.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by astrange » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 4:38 AM UTC

counttheforks wrote: post #677

Wingman4l7 wrote: post #661

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I'm specifically talking about the T2 chips in the laptops. The newest Macbooks can be activation-locked, just like the phones. This has already bitten legitimate owners who are trying to restore backup images, etc.

Legislation needs to step in to make it illegal for corporations to prevent resale. If I have a piece of hardware in my hands it is mine. It should ALWAYS be possible to access it. If Full Disk Encryption is used then there should be a button to reset it and start over.

It is possible to access it, with the consent of the previous owner. It's not possible to steal it though.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by heap_perms » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 9:43 AM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #41

It’s interesting that these models are both massively expensive to produce and self-contained to a degree that you can distribute the end product in a torrent. This has not been the case for most commercial software for the past 20 years, during the cloud era. If you could steal a dump of random Facebook source code, it would be 99% useless because it’s so closely tied to the infrastructure. There’s almost nothing yo…

> are like neutron stars of computation density

I really like that expression.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by counttheforks » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 11:48 AM UTC

astrange wrote: post #684

counttheforks wrote: post #677

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Legislation needs to step in to make it illegal for corporations to prevent resale. If I have a piece of hardware in my hands it is mine. It should ALWAYS be possible to access it. If Full Disk Encryption is used then there should be a button to reset it and start over.

It is possible to access it, with the consent of the previous owner. It's not possible to steal it though.

Physical access should be all that's needed, and you shouldn't need to beg for permission from the company who sold you the device.

Software that locks out people with physical access from resetting a device is not an ethical, or effective, way to prevent hardware theft. It's dystopian.

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Post by causi » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 1:06 PM UTC

msm_ wrote: post #458

causi wrote: post #170

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I'd fire somebody for browsing 4chan at work. Shitting dick nipples, lolicon, and the occasional piece of child pornography does not need to be moving over our network.

I think you're confused about how 4chan works (except maybe /b/). And fortunately I live in a country where I can't legally be fired because my boss has personal grievances about particular websites

There's more than enough posted to /g/ I wouldn't want on a work PC. At this very moment there's a bikini model, a spread-legged underage anime catgirl, a Terry Davis thread, some furry art, more anime girls, more anime girls, an upskirt shot of a loli, some AI art titties, and the ever-tasteful "chink shit general".

This is not appropriate to look at at work.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by afunctionof » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 3:33 PM UTC

eigenvalue wrote: post #402

kragen wrote: post #366

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if aaron had attempted to release the jstor database he would have succeeded

Didn't he get caught before he fully downloaded everything? My understanding was that's what he was doing with that laptop stuffed in a supply closet on the MIT campus.

He could have been trying to evaluate how many public domain papers it wasn't sharing access to at the time, which would have required a collection of the database. Would also have explained why he wasn't trying to hide his behavior.

He would have succeeded if he was just wanting to deaddrop all the data in a bin, probably without getting caught.

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Post by afunctionof » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 3:34 PM UTC

kragen wrote: post #421

eigenvalue wrote: post #402

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Didn't he get caught before he fully downloaded everything? My understanding was that's what he was doing with that laptop stuffed in a supply closet on the MIT campus.

probably nobody knows but certainly he was capable of ensuring that everything he downloaded would be released if that was what he wanted

You should add your Matrix to your contact page.

Edit: Also, is there going to be another der* release this year? They and therefore you have taught me more than I'd learned in the last five years otherwise.

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Post by Cipater » Mon, Mar 06, 2023, 5:21 PM UTC

tekla wrote: post #530

Cipater wrote: post #401

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Why do 4chan users go out of their way to be so offensive in their posts?

It keeps people out that are unable to separate the internet from real life.

There's a lot of interesting stuff on there but I can't use the forum because I'm black and they're very earnest about telling me how subhuman I am even when it doesn't make any contextual sense to do so.