Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month

Post by ben_w » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 1:14 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #62

JanSt wrote: post #43

My wife had a daily 45km rail+2km bus trip to work which was 200€ per month. That's massive savings for many people who choose not to drive with cars. Her colleagues drive to work with cars for 2 km trips and ask her whether she does not own a car (we do). Taking the train is a) cheaper b) more relaxed (can read) c) better for the environment d) it's even faster in her case The €49 ticket could give public transporta…

Cool, if you live near a rail line in a major city. Not everyone has that luxury. Im standing about 300km from the nearest passenger rail setvice. It is 0530, -25c, and i am about to drive 18km to work (government/military). Trains or even busses are a distant concept here.

Post by the_mitsuhiko » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 1:17 PM UTC

Aachen wrote: post #69

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #42

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> What's the difference between a monthly subscription and a yearly subscription that you can cancel monthly? Either way you pay for however many months you choose to have it? It sounds like the difference is that you need to fork out the cash for a whole year up front The difference is in the process mostly. They make it a process that requires a physical address, you need to return the plastic card etc. It's someth…

That... doesn't sound like a benefit? Why be surprised they didn't go for this? Guess I read a meaning into that comment (that it could have been better by changing a technicality about billing period) that wasn't there.

Post by oynqr » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 1:20 PM UTC

pretext-1 wrote: post #109

OJFord wrote: post #52

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Why not? You (as the seller) don't care if someone buys a ticket they're not eligible to use and has to come back for another one, or never uses it, or whatever. You'd be checking eligibility at point of use anyway.

* It’s inefficient. Eligibility must only be confirmed once while ticket control happens often. Ticket control needs to be fast. * Training all inspectors to verify student IDs is much more effort compared to training people at point of sale only. * Many places also accept tickets with student badge instead of student IDs for verification. This is probably also the reason we don’t get discounted 49€-tickets yet. They…

Post by the_mitsuhiko » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 1:21 PM UTC

ghaff wrote: post #73

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #47

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> Does it? How do railways work in Austria? In the UK companies bid to get monopolies on routes. So you don't really have competition anyway. There are routes on which there is competition (eg: Vienna to Salzburg) where two rail companies operate. For the most part the competition is quite limited, something which I hope will change. > Is that a good thing? Yes. Because public transit is primarily for the people who…

>That it's also something that tourists can use is great, but you don't need to subsidize it for them. Although many places do. There are often city passes of various sorts for tourists. There are JR Rail visitor-only passes in Japan. I'm sure there are other examples.

Post by siva7 » Sun, Mar 05, 2023, 1:22 PM UTC

sprash wrote: post #99

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #61

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That's why it's even more impressive it took off in Germany which is normally very protective of its car industry.

It's not that impressive if you consider that the current government in Germany is driving a massive de-industrialization campaign. Destroying the own car industry fits well in the agenda.