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Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street. I don’t think, unfortunately, there’s a magic solution. I can provide some generic advice about what helped me: 1. Determining who my actual support network was. I invested in my repairing and strengthening my bonds with my friends and family who had been there for me - and while not cutting ties with fair weather friends, deemphasized spending tim…

> I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street. If you don't mind me asking: Did you blow that money somehow? Or have you just sold the businesses for very little? Or was some other disaster involved?

Mostly medical issues and poor money management exacerbated by my mental health issues.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I went from selling three businesses to being homeless on the street. I don’t think, unfortunately, there’s a magic solution. I can provide some generic advice about what helped me: 1. Determining who my actual support network was. I invested in my repairing and strengthening my bonds with my friends and family who had been there for me - and while not cutting ties with fair weather friends, deemphasized spending tim…

Are these actually life changing exits for the businesses or did you mean it more as you were successful? Would love to get an idea on the numbers if you can share.

I had enough in my Roth IRA to retire on in my mid-20s. I blew most of my liquid assets thanks to massive medical debt and bad money management.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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"(toxic parent relationship, some narcissistic/borderline traits in them)" Could it be contagious/inherited? Sorry to be a jerk but you are not at rock bottom, only at "Bwawawa I look/feel like a loser!".

Rock bottom is different for many people. You don't know what things feel like for them. And I really don't think that you're truly sorry - plenty of other people tried to convey the same idea (eg, "not rock bottom") with empathy rather than the nastiness you've employed here. Try and be better to others and have a nice weekend.

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Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Which culture died quickly due to not practicing marriage?

All of them. They couldn't establish themselves enough to leave any important traces in history and are effectively erased. Sexual liberation is not a new idea, the reason why it's not traditional is because it is unsustainable and can never grow to a tradition

We complain about ChatGPT making brazenly false statements with complete confidence, yet we have humans out here saying things like this.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Marriage is not all its cracked up to be. My divorce 1 year aniversary is this month, after being loyal and faithful for 12 years, I left due to abuse. I am now raising our child alone and I am so much happier now than I ever was while married. Marriage is societal cancer.

There exists no society at all without marriage. The reason marriage is absolute central in all cultures and civilization is not because it's been forced onto people by bad men or because people think it's better, the reason is that cultures or people who don't practice marriage die out quickly.

To be clear, are you meaning strictly 1-to-1 "marriage", or are any of the many-to-one marriage types (poly, whatever) included?

Am curious, as the Saudi's seems to be "going ok" (for the males) with their harem approach. Not so much for the females I guess (no idea). That being said, their society seems to have lasted that way for a fair while now.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Sounds like you are a sensitive, thoughtful and feeling individual. And you are reaching out to more people, strangers, presenting yourself as a massive pile of broken glass - a poetical description suggesting you'd like to talk about yourself in the context of a Feeling Thinking self-ideation. (ADVICE: you might want to naturally add more of that to your life, e.g. a regular poetry class, or write a daily Haiku, so…

Thank you so much, very thoughtful response! I like your observation on the pile of broken glass. I enjoy describing things poetically / with mental pictures / with analogies. I've never thought about it really, though. My childhood dream job was being a pilot, but my eyes are slightly too weak for the medical thresholds. I still have that passion for aviation. I'm always excited to go to the airport, or see planes f…

You are welcome, fellow internet stranger. Being human can be complex, and it can be healthy to nurture conversations like this. Hopefully this HN forum will provide you with kind, friendly guidance and feedback.

Thank you for sharing so much about your life! Fills my imagination, and gives me some details to better sympathize with your path.

Way to go, is a compliment I'd like to pass. I speculate you enjoy the achievement of adventure. Like, your concept of "living well" appears to me to include this kind of adventure. I think it's fair to also say, you deserve to be celebrated. ADVICE So .. maybe include some of that in this '23 post-breakup "making my life better" survival pivot?

ADVICE Having a mentor (savvy to education-field competitiveness) might help with the uneven feeling you describe. Has that worked out before, or if you tried and it did not, was it also toxic for you? I imagine that being disadvantaged versus another person can be turned around and made to feel more of an exciting challenge. The "life is a game" approach - and I know well how (negative, positive) emotions influence reality, so that can also be a part of the game.

You are a human and we're at the top of our planet's food chain. We are a product of millions of years of evolution, and your mental process is going to be sophisticated. Keep respecting the challenge of knowing yourself. You seem to be introspective, and actively doing this.

(This may be more for me than you:) There are still magical moments yet to unfold for you, biologically speaking. (The onset of adult thinking around puberty is not the last change to look forward to.) And finding a companion person who is maybe good for making kids / a home, and is a friend, is a wonderful form of support when it is healthy. Plus we all come with mental/emotional baggage - so, wisdom / self awareness, and self-control are generally useful IMO.

> Funny thing is, accomplishments made me happy at least in the past. [...] get into a very competitive MSc. program [...] made me feel good about myself.

This is a significant observation - identifying what's rewarding after you accomplish. Feeling good is part of it. Knowing deeply how 'feeling good' matters to you can be useful. Maybe I'm talking more at myself than you here, sorry if so. There is also the motivation of BEFORE, how did you get there in the first place? "[...] a lot of hard work and isolating myself during my undergrad I managed to [...]" Why did you do it? What kept you studying and practicing?

I don't yet know, how Motivation to achieve and then the end Reward interact with each other. I know that my thinking is sometimes my worst enemy, telling me the Reward is no longer worth the effort, and simultaneously I lose my Motivation. There was some brain-science articles / medical notes I was looking at the other day that diagrammed some of how this works (partly in the context of Meth making it impossible for users to be happy, yuck) which might be assuring to you too, if you can find it.

For you, the "I like XYZ" stuff is critical, I think. The adventure of life. Yes there is reward, though it may be (internet stranger speculation ...) that just Seeking could be a bit more important for your mental health.

And, I'm sorry the relationship fell apart - that's complex stuff.

EDIT: +1 for unexpected poetry. Art is I think a part of the human experience.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Get through the PhD as long as there is no imminent risk to your health. After that, just take a year to decompress. Travel, cleanse yourself of the relationship, and once you have space, meditate, think, reflect on what you want to do next. If you have some minor savings then just use that and then come back and re-enter the world. If you don't, work a simple job for a few months to save some cash (like a simple analyst type job) and then take off and then re-enter the world.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Losing half of their wealth and honestly rolling the dice on whether a new relationship would be with someone who would be with them through thick and thin or just another “fair weather friend.”

If you are in a relationship with someone where the concern is losing half your wealth after 20 years together then I would advise not marrying that person. I make about double what my wife makes. If tomorrow she said, I want a divorce, then she can take half of what we saved over the 20+ years together without any issue from me (assuming infidelity was not involved, if it was I would go scorched earth). Anything I e…

> if it was I would go scorched earth

Out of curiosity, why is that particular situation a red line for you?

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Get through the PhD as long as there is no imminent risk to your health. After that, just take a year to decompress. Travel, cleanse yourself of the relationship, and once you have space, meditate, think, reflect on what you want to do next. If you have some minor savings then just use that and then come back and re-enter the world. If you don't, work a simple job for a few months to save some cash (like a simple ana…

Yeah this is kind of what I have planned.
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