I am reading this on my X86 Windows workstation which I continue to enjoy. :)
ARM64 Linux Workstation
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#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why I like trackpoint. Mouse without as much as moving your fingers from the home row.
I like the idea behind trackpoint, but I just can't get used to it. Any tips?
Force yourself to use it exclusively for a while, no cheating. For better (it's great) AND worse (you have fewer options for laptops), there's no going back after that. I love it and even use Trackpoint with my desktop computer.
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#363Just so that I understand this correctly: he bought a $6000+ Mac Studio with a 20-core M1 Ultra processor and 128GB of RAM. But all these cores, ram, bandwidth, storage are not important, but rather the fact it is an "ARM64" workstation is what was the game changer. Seriously? Would a $6000+ x64 workstation be noticeably slower?
Not sure, but anecdotally I have a machine running linux that was $6,000 and definitely feels slower than my M2 macbook air. Mostly its a question of latency I would imagine. My machine: Archlinux “Zen” (lower latency kernel). Threadripper 3970x 256G DDR4 2666MHz 3x4TiB NVMe (PCIe Gen3) in RAID0 Radeon VII GFX card (more than enough for 2D render of terminals).
depends your workload I guess, if you are just compiling a lot of code or having containers with a non-server-like load, then most of features of this computer are useless. Also GUI software will feel significatively worse.
Lastly, threadripper has a NUMA architecture, which is not very user application friendly. Frankly, they are very bad personal computers in general, only worth if you need that much memory or PCI lines, which doesn't seem to be your case.
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t need to admit anything. You can read into anything as disingenuously as you like, and go rant off into corners; but you’d get equally far yelling at a wall. OP claimed that all of the hardware they tested (with an enumerated list of said hardware) worked as they expected. For you to take that as some guarantee that you should then have a perfect experience on a completely different (or even the exact same) pi…
> I don’t need to admit anything. You can read into anything as disingenuously as you like, and go rant off into corners; but you’d get equally far yelling at a wall. Yet you decided to reply back and evaded answering my question. By doing that not only you indirectly admitted it, you already know that not 'everything' is working and anyone can check that for themselves. > OP claimed that all of the hardware they tes…
Repeating your disingenuous and misdirected points ad infinitum is the definition of talking to a wall.
Go do it, it’s a better use of your time and infinitely less annoying to the rest of society.
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#365I don't get the hype around apple silicon for desktop computers. I sort of understand the power efficiency argument for laptops (although it is often overstated IMO, I could work for >10h straight with my X1 carbon 6 years ago), but for Desktop it is trivial to build a PC that runs significantly faster, with much more upgradability and flexibility for a fraction of the price. So if I want performance on a Linux system why would I choose Apple silicon?
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#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then don't buy a Mac, that simple. WSL 2 is a Hyper V VM for running Linux distributions, while WSL emulated Linux syscalls. Surely some of that salary can be used to make OEMs selling Linux hardware happy, instead of buying Apple and then complaining macOS isn't yet another Linux distribution. If you want WSL like experience on Mac, VMWare is happy to provide it to you. It is like complaining using Playstation SDK i…
Or you know, take off the square wheels and put some round wheels on.
Linux OEM vendors will gladly provide them, specially for those into Pimp My Ride kind of experience, plenty of wheels to chose from.
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#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm wondering if an M1 MacBook would actually have such a good battery life on linux. The processor is very power efficient, but I'd (naively) assume that MacOS's power management probably has a big influence too. In the same way that Linux laptops usually have a bad battery life compared to the same hardware on Windows. How good is Asahi when running similar workloads? And is it possible that it could reach parity w…
> I'm wondering if an M1 MacBook would actually have such a good battery life on linux. Not 100% the same, but the Asahi members reported something like 8 hours on a M1 Macbook, so that's better than most/all x86 laptops with Linux
My Lenovo X1 carbon was giving me more than 10h 6 years ago (after powertop tuning), so high quality laptops have been providing similar battery life for a long time.
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
The permutations don't really matter. If one machine has Broadcom wireless and Intel graphics and another has Qualcomm wireless and AMD graphics and they're both supported and then you come across one that has Broadcom wireless and AMD graphics, you already have the drivers for it. The real trouble is that you get some wireless chip which isn't popular enough for anybody to reverse engineer it but the manufacturer di…
But power management is still ussually subpar(compared to Windows) even on the well supported ones.
Because Linux drivers don't implement as many features as their Windows counterparts, sadly.
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm wondering if an M1 MacBook would actually have such a good battery life on linux. The processor is very power efficient, but I'd (naively) assume that MacOS's power management probably has a big influence too. In the same way that Linux laptops usually have a bad battery life compared to the same hardware on Windows. How good is Asahi when running similar workloads? And is it possible that it could reach parity w…
I used my M1 MacBook Air last weekend with Asahi and GNOME on train ride for roughly 4 hours (browsing the web, fiddling with a server over ssh, writing a blog post) and when shutting it down, it was still at 78%. This used to be different when I first installed Asahi, but the GPU driver and other improvements have made battery life something I don't really worry about anymore.
thank you for that report. This convinced me to install it now.
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#370A bit off-topic: does anyone know what the best new laptop, available in EU, would be for Linux (exclusively)? Preferably something with a keyboard similar to the old ThinkPads (T480)?
The Tuxedo Infinity book is the one device that I've got my eyes on. But haven't used it personally though