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Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by wmeredith »

nnadams wrote: post #22

When I was working at Ford a few years ago, many Ford engineers worked very closely with Argo engineers. Sharing code or data was common, they used our internal tools, and sometimes we would go in-person to troubleshoot with them. A lot of their employees had come from Ford, and so they knew who to call and even already had our numbers. All that to say I'm not surprised to see they hired back many of those people. Fo…

This is normal on their web tech side as well. I worked with Ford in a consulting role through a very large agency, and there were multiple teams working as contractors, subsidiaries, and full-time employees. The lines were very blurry.

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Post by rnk »

dylan604 wrote: post #99
rnk wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gm bolt is what you want.

Except it's a GM

You can't have you basic car that is in-expensive and just a car without buying it from a boring, in-expensive automobile maker. They are the ones who make that kind of vehicle. They are one and the same.

What's the 'basic car' that uses gas that you want in electronic form but still a basic car?

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by rnk »

blitzar wrote: post #95
rnk wrote: post #81

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AV means autonomous vehicle. Please define your terms.

AV means audiovisual - to me at least. I read it all the comments in that context and it pretty much made sense.

I was trying to puzzle it out and then i googled it. I find discussions where everyone assumes you know a term that is a little bit specific extremely irritating. I'm special that way.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by dylan604 »

rnk wrote: post #123
dylan604 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except it's a GM

You can't have you basic car that is in-expensive and just a car without buying it from a boring, in-expensive automobile maker. They are the ones who make that kind of vehicle. They are one and the same. What's the 'basic car' that uses gas that you want in electronic form but still a basic car?

Sure I can. Just because I don't like GM doesn't mean I don't like other manufacturers. You're making a big assumption.

Some people don't like Ford cars because they are fixed or repaired daily.

Some people don't like GM for whatever generic meme saying.

Some people don't like Toyota/Honda/et al because they're not American made (to whatever truth there is/isn't to that).

Some people just have preferences. Those preferences do not equate to the meaning you are trying to infer.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by shagie »

mLuby wrote: post #71
shagie wrote: post #34

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I'd give Car Wars a read... https://doctorow.medium.com/car-wars-a01718a27e9e Without being too spoilerly... yea.

> “Step out of the vehicle please.” > “Yes sir.” > I made sure he could see my body cam, made it prominent in the field of view for his body cam, so there’d be an obvious question later, if no footage was available from my point of view. Weird how sometimes both body cams malfunction at the same time. Technology is hard, let's go shopping.

The original publication of it at https://web.archive.org/web/20161126015615/http://this.deaki... has some nice contextual graphics to it.

As this was paired with an ethics class, there are questions to be considered about AI driving (and the corresponding instructor's opinions on those questions - don't vote on it right away as the javascript messes up the graphics for the rest of the page since the backend server isn't there anymore)

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Post by eganist »

vsareto wrote: post #114
eganist wrote: post #109

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700k total comp, so probably between 150-300k base salary, 50k bonus, and the rest in stock comp, usually vesting in batches over four years. Anecdata just means anecdotal data, i.e data points I know from people personally but not a representative sample.

That’s fucking ludicrous

Yes, but it's also not farfetched when you think about who owns most of the talent and what's needed to peel that talent away. It's not as absurd as it was e.g when waymo was comping employees so heavily on milestones that they just straight-up quit because they made enough to retire.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by lostlogin »

xhkkffbf wrote: post #106
lostlogin wrote: post #75

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Firing them hiring is a long way from free. Then add in the company start up costs and legal fees etc. Maybe I’m the mug, but that seems wasted money. When you are burning billions, the costs listed above seem to be treated as a rounding error.

It actually could be pretty lucrative. Not only have they gotten VW out of the mix, but they can renegotiate the salaries and stock options again. The market for talent is very, very different now. And all of those old options that the Argo people took during their first n years? They're now worthless so the management doesn't have to share ownership with them either. This could have been entirely driven by business…

This is all possible. There is a comment here by someone who knows one of the rehires and their contract is better for the employee. One data point etc.
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