Lena has said, in the linked video, that she would prefer her picture stop being used in this way. That ought be a sufficient condition for us, as developers, to stop using it. I'm distressed to find comment threads here are talking about copyright or complaining about "virtue signalling." You don't have to agree with her to respect her wishes.
Ethically Sourced Lena Picture
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#123I can't really tell anymore if this is ironic or not.
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#124Can we please just have some things with some soul? This is a cute photo, the model in the photo has said she thinks is cool and kindof funny that it has been used for image research, the story is kindof cute and funny, and it's just...all around wholesome. The people who want to get rid of this stuff are sad. The world does not need to be a soulless, beige, featureless, boring slurry of boring featureless HR spoken…
She said: “I retired from modelling a long time ago. It’s time I retired from tech, too. We can make a simple change today that creates a lasting change for tomorrow. Let’s commit to losing me.” https://www.thedrum.com/news/2019/11/19/gender-equality-ad-c...
Yes, after like 50 years of saying the opposite, including a few months before that statement was given. It looks like a SJW campaign approached her about it to make some noise but didn't really bother enough to keep their website secured with a valid SSL certificate.
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#125Side note: https://sipi.usc.edu/database/database.php?volume=misc&image... >Please note that we no longer distribute the following images that were previously available in our database: 4.2.04 (lena), 4.2.02 (tiffany), elaine.512, numbers.512 and testpat.1k. Although these images have played a significant role in the history of image processing, they no longer represent the best examples for future research. What are…
> What are the reasons for not distributing anymore the other ones? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19182497
Yep, thanks, still we don't know if it was because they are (now) considered somehow offensive of women or if it was because (even if protection was not enforced) they are copyrighted.
Or simply because they were sourced from Playboy magazine (which in itself is now deemed ethically questionable).
The statement on the page seems to me meaningless:
> they no longer represent the best examples for future research.
without the actual reason why they "no longer represent", which BTW implies that for some time (30 or 40 years + ) they actually were "the best examples".
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, this definitely changes things. Previously the model didn't seem to be bothered and seemed to find it all quite amusing. People change their minds and we should respect their wishes.
> People change their minds and we should respect their wishes. When you sign a contract that says "in return for a bunch of money, you agree that other people can use this picture of you", you shouldn't get to keep the money but change your mind about the picture.
Strictly speaking, she was paid money by playboy to appear in playboy - not to appear in the many research publications that have carried the image.
None of the researchers using the image had permission to use it nor did the journals that published the papers.
Playboy did decide in the end to look the other way as it was good publicity.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Contrast that case with this one: https://www.boredpanda.com/unflattering-donald-trump-chin-ph... Why is it that in the former, everyone says you're a horrible person who deserves to be cancelled if you ignore the subject's wishes to not use the picture, but in the latter, everyone says it's a great thing if you ignore the subject's wishes to not use the picture?
It actually is not great that people decided to go after Trump’s various sensitive physical traits. He’s an awful person and there are many far more substantial things to criticize him on. Making fun of his weight, even though it feels good to say negative things about a bad person, reinforces the idea that this is somehow a valid criticism. I can see why people do it. He’s the worst, it feels good to say negative th…
This is a good point, it may be cathartic, it may be deserved but it isn't really helpful.
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#128By the way, given that porn industry was and still partially is a serious driver of Internet development, using original female nude as a benchmark for compression quality was more than justified.
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#129I was expecting to read some story about criminal exploitation, but this sounds like it's just... completely above-board? As a few other commenters stated, the model hasn't explicitly stated whether she supports the use of the photo or not. Even if she did explicitly come out and say she doesn't like people using it, she doesn't own the rights to it. I'm fine with (and happy for) people going above and beyond to resp…
The image is offensive because, as an photo sourced from a “men’s magazine”, it’s a reminder that mostly men worked on developing image compression and jpeg technology in the past, and this could make women feel left out or uncomfortable today. Seems motivated by political correctness, not any actual injustice, but perhaps it is time for a new image after this many years.