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EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by rkangel »

willyt wrote: post #86

If everyone's messaging has to be compatible with everyone else's then maybe we will finally only need one messaging app on our phones again instead of 5. Sounds great. I just want to be able to send messages without thinking about which app I need to go into to communicate with a particular person; that really breaks my flow when I'm trying to get something done. I don't give a shit about any features apart from pic…

The solution I use to minimise this is Element One (https://element.io/element-one). This is a paid for service that operates bridges from Matrix to Signal, WhatsApp and Telegram. I then get to communicate with all those contacts in one place (I'm on Android so iMessage not a problem).

I signed up the moment it came out and they had some teething reliability problems for a while, but it's been great for months now. Element is a much better web client than any of the others and it's nice to not have to worry about which computer or platform I'm on when I want to write a message.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by coldpie »

guestbest wrote: post #93
willyt wrote: post #86

If everyone's messaging has to be compatible with everyone else's then maybe we will finally only need one messaging app on our phones again instead of 5. Sounds great. I just want to be able to send messages without thinking about which app I need to go into to communicate with a particular person; that really breaks my flow when I'm trying to get something done. I don't give a shit about any features apart from pic…

I thought email already did all of this

I honestly think the Subject line was the death of email.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

minton wrote: post #81
singularity2001 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>> allow side-loading of apps outside of its App Store Just in time to replace that broken Siri thing with OpenAI based assistants! Previous app submissions were rejected on the basis of being "too close to existing functionality". Maybe they meant dysfunctionality? If the EU needs witnesses of anti-competitive behavior I volunteer.

It sounds like you might be happier in Android land. You can load whatever apps you want and even some you don’t[1]. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-use-f...

No, apple hardware is better. And now software will be better too.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by pier25 »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #50
foepys wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a problem worldwide or more localized to the US? I am using Signal, Threema, and WhatsApp and never received spam on any messanger, only occasionally via SMS.

I live 10,000km away from the US and can confirm that I get more spam on androids than when using iMessage. It wasn’t the main reason I switched back to iOS with my newest phone but it was a reason.

I've been using Android for years and I rarely receive any spam via SMS or Whatsapp. Maybe once or twice a year.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by ris58h »

amelius wrote: post #115

Meanwhile WhatsApp installs only on one device (phone OR tablet, not both). You can use the web version, but it sucks on a tablet.

> Meanwhile WhatsApp installs only on one device (phone OR tablet, not both).

You can link a device (but I haven't checked it)

https://faq.whatsapp.com/1317564962315842/

https://faq.whatsapp.com/378279804439436

WhatsApp companion mode lets you use the same account on multiple phones https://mashable.com/article/whatsapp-companion-mode-multipl...

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by rkangel »

Scubabear68 wrote: post #34

Misleading headline. This affects many apps and is much broader. In fact, this line from the article is far more serious: “Apple, for instance, will also need to contend with a reported requirement to allow side-loading of apps outside of its App Store, something it's spent years fighting internationally”.

And more specifically means that Apple can't prevent you using other Web Browsers etc.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by gorbypark »

prepend wrote: post #58
petodo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you don't need whatsapp desktop app, just go to web.whatsapp.com in browser, why would anyone bother with app (which can't be even installed on work computers)

I like the desktop app better as it’s integrated better and thus easier to use. I have notifications set up for many different apps not just messages so I want them all to function the same. Also, I just think native apps still perform better than web apps. And I can install it on my work computer

The WhatsApp desktop beta for macOS is built using Catalyst, and it's pretty nice. Catalyst is when an iOS and macOS app share one codebase, but can have different interfaces. I've been using it for a few weeks and no complaints so far. I believe the stable version app is Electron (or some web technology). The beta is full on native now!

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by namdnay »

dncornholio wrote: post #101
Scubabear68 wrote: post #34

Misleading headline. This affects many apps and is much broader. In fact, this line from the article is far more serious: “Apple, for instance, will also need to contend with a reported requirement to allow side-loading of apps outside of its App Store, something it's spent years fighting internationally”.

I'm wondering what the people who say that no sideloading is a feature have to say now.

What Id say is that today anyone who wants to sell a “smart” product has to write a proper clean iOS app that gets reviewed.

Tomorrow I can guarantee they will immediately cut costs and ship out piles of sideloaded garbage

Sure, it’s up to the consumer to choose, but they’re not going to write that on the package

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