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EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by raverbashing »

teekert wrote: post #17
gloryjulio wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lmao. How? This just means that msging apps on Android will finally be able to break the blue bubble problem. There will be even less incentive for ppl to switch to iphone to enjoy the 'privilege'

I only recently heard of the "green bubble stigma", it's not a thing here in the Netherlands at least. People use Whatsapp.

Yes, it is as stupid as it sounds

It's a messaging app, you can either pretend people will give 2 flocks about not being able to message you "in the right color", or you know, install Whatsapp or any other competing messenger

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by EduardoBautista »

Kipters wrote: post #39
anaganisk wrote: post #4

If stars align right for Apple, this can at least with some probability that they can kill WhatsApp in a few countries. If they implement a few features.

I don't see how they could, iMessage is severely lacking in features compared to WhatsApp and users don't like change, iMessage doesn't need to have feature parity but it has to be massively better - and so far it's not

Severely lacking?

You can build basic app functionality into iMessage, something you can't do with WhatsApp.

The desktop app for iMessage is simple, but efficient and gets the job done. The WhatsApp desktop app is slow by comparison.

WhatsApp has the user numbers, but it has never been the best when it comes to functionality.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by m_eiman »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #21
asimpletune wrote: post #18

The main benefit of iMessage over all the other messaging platforms is there's a lot less spam. I hope this decision doesn't threaten that.

Anecdotally I never received any spam on the other proprietary messaging platforms, except SMS.

Facebook Messenger is pretty spammy for me, as is Twitter DMs.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

m_eiman wrote: post #43
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally I never received any spam on the other proprietary messaging platforms, except SMS.

Facebook Messenger is pretty spammy for me, as is Twitter DMs.

Ok but I was talking about dedicated messenger apps, not the messaging feature of what are basically social media apps. Those are all full of spam if you've got enough contacts and liked enough things.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

Barrin92 wrote: post #37
fwlr wrote: post #5

A 40 billion dollar fine if you don’t do as the EU says… at some point tech companies are just going to pull out of the EU, right? For most (but not all!), GDPR was worth complying with (and had benefits for citizens). This is likely to also be worth complying with (and also has benefits for citizens), but I imagine the EU is going to run out of ideas that legitimately benefit users long before it runs out of desire…

The EU is a 17 trillion dollar economy. It's the second largest market in the world for most of these companies, they'll never pull out. It is simply hot air. They'd never even leave China unless the US gov. forces them at gunpoint.

Not true in Google’s case: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-chin...

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by petodo »

EduardoBautista wrote: post #42
Kipters wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how they could, iMessage is severely lacking in features compared to WhatsApp and users don't like change, iMessage doesn't need to have feature parity but it has to be massively better - and so far it's not

Severely lacking? You can build basic app functionality into iMessage, something you can't do with WhatsApp. The desktop app for iMessage is simple, but efficient and gets the job done. The WhatsApp desktop app is slow by comparison. WhatsApp has the user numbers, but it has never been the best when it comes to functionality.

you don't need whatsapp desktop app, just go to web.whatsapp.com in browser, why would anyone bother with app (which can't be even installed on work computers)

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by petodo »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #46
Barrin92 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is a 17 trillion dollar economy. It's the second largest market in the world for most of these companies, they'll never pull out. It is simply hot air. They'd never even leave China unless the US gov. forces them at gunpoint.

Not true in Google’s case: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-chin...

Google never really had any traction in China to start with, their search results were useless for Chinese content, so then they pretended to leave for some noble cause. Same with Amazon who tried for much longer until it gave up after decade.

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by gloryjulio »

perceptronas wrote: post #16
gloryjulio wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lmao. How? This just means that msging apps on Android will finally be able to break the blue bubble problem. There will be even less incentive for ppl to switch to iphone to enjoy the 'privilege'

Instead of ugly green bubble, android users will be shown as ugly yellow bubbles, reminding everyone of urine

As a multiphone holder(from the work), it's interesting to observe ppl to have such a sense of superiority of some msg apps

Re: EU will require Apple to open up iMessage (2022)

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

foepys wrote: post #19
asimpletune wrote: post #18

The main benefit of iMessage over all the other messaging platforms is there's a lot less spam. I hope this decision doesn't threaten that.

Is that a problem worldwide or more localized to the US? I am using Signal, Threema, and WhatsApp and never received spam on any messanger, only occasionally via SMS.

I live 10,000km away from the US and can confirm that I get more spam on androids than when using iMessage. It wasn’t the main reason I switched back to iOS with my newest phone but it was a reason.
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