>People value long-lasting, quality devices
But only 3 years of software support The bar isnt even low in this industry, its in the damn basement...
Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone
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While I enjoy smaller phones, it makes no sense to have high end smaller phones. It doesn’t sell. Just look at Apple’s sales and their cancellation of the mini. I’d love it to be the opposite so I didn’t have to hold on to my iphone 12 mini, but it’s just how things are. Most people don’t like smaller phones and would be a waste of resources to make high end ones.
We've been seeing reports for a while that the iPhone 14 Plus is selling softly. It might not be the mini's fault; perhaps Apple simply cannot get four models to sell like it wants to.
The Mini was $100 cheaper than the "normal" iPhone. The new Plus is $100 more expensive than the normal iPhone. I think that is the biggest factor.
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I have one that I use as an mp3 player. My main gripe is the awful battery life.
I've had one for about a month. The battery life was very bad at first, but then I twiddled with the settings about stopping certain apps from running in the background and now it's tolerable
I just leave airplane mode on all the time and have a short screen timeout. I also use wired headphones. It's certainly usable as an mp3 player. The extra functionality is a bonus that I very occasionally use (I have a cheap sim card in it).
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Not having an iphone in the US is impossibile unless you have unlimited SMS's /s
Why? What does unlimited SMSs have to do with it? (In NL unlimited SMS is pretty common anyway.)
because most of the people there use iMessage instead of Whatsapp or other apps like that, so if you dont have an iPhone you pay.
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#995The sheer number of comments for this one article should show that this product has some demand! It would have been great if it was de-googleable and came with instructions for installing Lineage etc
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Dude, just get a USB-C to 3.5mm DAC adaptor. It's not expensive.
That'd just get lost. Such small devices constantly get lost, especially when not using the device for fun but e.g., to use the phone as an LTC reader to check timecode generators on set. (or even as cheap ToD LTC generator for multicam work). The headphone jack is not just for music, it's a versatile industry-standard connector. Being able to swap the same devices between a phone, zoom audio recorders, the monitorin…
> That'd just get lost.
I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some.
> It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money.
companies have marketing department, who probably found that customers more interested in slick design and Ok to use usb-c buds or bluetooth headphones. LG used to produce phones with 3.5 and audiophile signal quality, now they are out of business.
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#997Earlier quoted context omitted.
That'd just get lost. Such small devices constantly get lost, especially when not using the device for fun but e.g., to use the phone as an LTC reader to check timecode generators on set. (or even as cheap ToD LTC generator for multicam work). The headphone jack is not just for music, it's a versatile industry-standard connector. Being able to swap the same devices between a phone, zoom audio recorders, the monitorin…
> That'd just get lost. I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some. > It's only a handful of phones that try to force you into wasting your money. companies have marketing department, who probably found that customers more interested in slick design and Ok to use usb-c buds or bluetooth headphones. LG used to produce phones with 3.5 and audiophile signal quality, now they are out of business…
> I feel your pain, and I just buy bunch of them so I always have some.
Sadly many don't support all the features of a headphone port, meaning TRRS with control, allowing you to use an external microphone and play/pause/skip buttons as well.
I'm using some tech that actually makes use of that, specifically as timecode reader for AV stuff.
I need my phone to be a modern version of star trek's tricorder, not a piece of jewelry.
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They basically need four models to pretty much cover all the bases: 1. Budget: - Basic processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - Basic processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen 2. Flagship - High-end processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - High-end processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen
While I enjoy smaller phones, it makes no sense to have high end smaller phones. It doesn’t sell. Just look at Apple’s sales and their cancellation of the mini. I’d love it to be the opposite so I didn’t have to hold on to my iphone 12 mini, but it’s just how things are. Most people don’t like smaller phones and would be a waste of resources to make high end ones.
Something to consider: small phones are a niche and producing them is a way of capturing a specific set of customers.
I was an Android guy, but one of the top two reasons my newest phone is an iPhone is due to the small form factor (the other is longer support cycles). If Apple stops making small phones, my next one may well be an Android.
On consideration, capturing a niche market segment like this may be more valuable for Apple than it is for other manufacturers, as it increases the odds of getting them locked into your ecosystem.
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#999Earlier quoted context omitted.
They basically need four models to pretty much cover all the bases: 1. Budget: - Basic processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - Basic processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen 2. Flagship - High-end processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - High-end processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen
While I enjoy smaller phones, it makes no sense to have high end smaller phones. It doesn’t sell. Just look at Apple’s sales and their cancellation of the mini. I’d love it to be the opposite so I didn’t have to hold on to my iphone 12 mini, but it’s just how things are. Most people don’t like smaller phones and would be a waste of resources to make high end ones.
Yep, it's something that has been tried (e.g. Sony Xperia Compact series comes to mind) but stopped since it apparently doesn't sell enough.
It's also a bit challenging, since a powerful phone has higher battery/heat/etc needs and that is easier/cheaper to do in a larger device.
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They should offer paid-for upgrades after 3 years
For how much? This is something that might make sense for flagship phones: getting two more years out of a $1000 phone is something people might pay for. For a $200 phone not so much.
In that case replacing the battery doesn't make sense either.