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Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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smcl wrote: post #39
callahad wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alas, the Last Word was mentioned in passing, just not especially favorably: > It’s honestly inspiring that the monks refuse to see their earthly purpose as satisfying the demands of some knucklehead mixologist doing his little riff on the Last Word at some lame speakeasy in some third-tier city. Which is a shame, because it is a fantastic cocktail.

I'm quite amazed by the concentration of ugly opinions the author managed to squeeze into one relatively short sentence! I thought cocktails were meant to be fun, that they were meant to be riffed on and explored. I guess if you're from a "third rate" city that doesn't apply.

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by avisser »

swalling wrote: post #19

Artificially limiting production on a secret recipe liqueur is a great tactic for turning what could be a commodity into more like a Veblen good. The opposite has happened to Campari, where you can now buy a ton of different red-hued craft aperitivo with similar flavor profiles. The article missed out on mentioning the best Chartreuse-based cocktail though: The Last Word. It’s absolutely sublime. https://en.wikipedia…

The Chartreuse cocktail I've had the most of is the Industry Sour:

1 part Green Chartreuse 1 part Fernet 1 part simple syrup 1 part lime juice

It was big when I lived in Athens, GA

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by tptacek »

callahad wrote: post #21
swalling wrote: post #19

Artificially limiting production on a secret recipe liqueur is a great tactic for turning what could be a commodity into more like a Veblen good. The opposite has happened to Campari, where you can now buy a ton of different red-hued craft aperitivo with similar flavor profiles. The article missed out on mentioning the best Chartreuse-based cocktail though: The Last Word. It’s absolutely sublime. https://en.wikipedia…

Alas, the Last Word was mentioned in passing, just not especially favorably: > It’s honestly inspiring that the monks refuse to see their earthly purpose as satisfying the demands of some knucklehead mixologist doing his little riff on the Last Word at some lame speakeasy in some third-tier city. Which is a shame, because it is a fantastic cocktail.

They're a bit of a cliche, they're too sweet, and they have sort of a reputation as a quick way to get your date drunk. It's a gateway cocktail that's dead easy to make, so dissing on them is also a way to be snooty.

If you're sad about Last Words getting expensive, just switch to Paper Airplanes.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by mhermher »

throwaway744678 wrote: post #67
franky47 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here (ENSERG/Phelma). I find it funny that the name for Chartreuse + Hot chocolate in English is "Verte chaud" (I'll skip the conjugation error), while it's "Green chaud" in French.

And another one here as well! Was wondering how many of us are browsing HN...

There were so many English speaking students while I was there. I wonder if it's unique to Grenoble.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by jxf »

Pxtl wrote: post #134
jxf wrote: post #112

I didn't even know Chartreuse was something you could drink; I always thought it was just the name of a color.

The color is named after the liquor.

Right, I mean, that's clear in retrospect. I was saying that I didn't know there was even a liquor in the first place.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by cnity »

tom-thistime wrote: post #149
cnity wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because my tastes are very indiscriminate (I like pretty much all of them) and I'm not that experienced tasting whisky. I had the cask strength Laphroaig (10 yrs) and loved that with just a touch of water. Really wild deep flavours.

Thanks! Have you compared it to the "regular" 10y Laphroaig?

Not side to side! I vaguely preferred it, but I can't say without a blind trial or something.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

gambiting wrote: post #100
kenneth wrote: post #76

Unlike the author, I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. I find it incredibly annoying that it's become impossible to find Chartreuse and that the prices are skyrocketing. It's such a key and irreplaceable ingredient in many cocktails. Unlike a fancy whiskey or whatever, there is little you can substitute for it, so I'm not unable to get my orders at many of my favorite cocktail bars.

>>I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. If someone asks you to work 14 hour days but you only choose to work 8 hours a day, are you artificially limiting the supply of your labour? Or making a sensible choice for yourself? The monks have decided they don't want to turn the drink they make into a massive corporation that would be required to make it at the volume the world wants to consume. That is to be…

I both respect the monks' decision and hope that someone else fills in the supply gap with knockoffs.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by Thoreandan »

kerrsclyde wrote: post #29
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #12

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Buckfast Tonic Wine, in the UK is produced in the same way. And it has been much maligned, linked with many alcohol related crimes, particularly in Scotland. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine [2] https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7702950/...

While looking to see if Buckfast was explicitly banned from import, I did a Google search for '"buckfast tonic" site:gov' giving two hits, one of which was a cardiology report about a 16 year old who'd reported to the ER after drinking it mixed with Red Bull. Yikes.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by himinlomax »

flurie wrote: post #116
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #12

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Haus Alpenz carries a genepy made by Dolin that is fairly easy to find at large/specialty stores. https://alpenz.com/product-genepy.html

Génépi tastes like a budget, unrefined Chartreuse. Though it could easily replace it in most cocktails.
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