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Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by tom-thistime »

cnity wrote: post #129
tom-thistime wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for asking. For me a lot of single-malt scotch, up until around 2000 (maybe later) seemed never to have been completely domesticated as a normal consumer product. Depending on what kind you liked, it could be almost kind of gross. My favorite in the 1990s was Talisker, which had almost a kind of rotting fish flavor. I have literally tried mixing a dash of fish sauce into today's Talisker to recover that. (Unfo…

This is interesting, and I love your taste for weird off flavours. I lately have developed a new love for whisky that appeared almost out of nowhere. Something about the alcohol taste disappeared suddenly and opened a whole world.

Can I ask kind of Scotch you like now? There's probably something out there that I'm just not finding.

EDIT: I'm open to things that I hate on the first sip. In fact that might work best for me.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

smcl wrote: post #39
callahad wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alas, the Last Word was mentioned in passing, just not especially favorably: > It’s honestly inspiring that the monks refuse to see their earthly purpose as satisfying the demands of some knucklehead mixologist doing his little riff on the Last Word at some lame speakeasy in some third-tier city. Which is a shame, because it is a fantastic cocktail.

I'm quite amazed by the concentration of ugly opinions the author managed to squeeze into one relatively short sentence! I thought cocktails were meant to be fun, that they were meant to be riffed on and explored. I guess if you're from a "third rate" city that doesn't apply.

> if you're from a "third rate" city that doesn't apply

Third-tier, not third rate.

And I’d argue it’s tier two cities which fuck up their cocktails and wine lists most passionately. Go to Bisby or Enniscorthy and they’ll pour a great, simple drink and tell you to kindly fuck off if you order something they don’t know. Order an aviation or Gibson in Manhattan or Palo Alto, and you’re likely to be treated well. But try the same in Phoenix or Aspen, and god knows what saccharine nonsense even a gin and tonic will arrive as.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by fknorangesite »

bee_rider wrote: post #98
Metacelsus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the British equivalent of Four Loko.

It is a bit funny that Four Loko got this reputation, when alcohol+caffeine have been helping people make bad decisions faster for ages (it isn’t like the FDA is gonna somehow ban rum and coke).

Because there's practically no caffeine in a rum and coke.

Very fuzzy napkin-math incoming: if you were to consume an equivalent amount of caffeine as a Four Loko via rum-and-cokes, you've now had about 50oz of rum. The caffeine would, uh, not be the problem.

Edit: Hm, though maybe this says more about my "rum, wave a Coke over it" preferences.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by standardUser »

bradleyjg wrote: post #89
werdnapk wrote: post #88

And now watch a select few buy up as much stock as they can with an attempt to flip it for a much higher price.

The is something depressing about a world where everything has been arbitraged away. The joy of going into a thrift store or garage sale and finding a diamond in the rough is disappearing.

On the flip side, I can find almost anything I want on eBay and that was totally impossible 20 or so years ago. I'd say there is vastly more available to us all than in whatever yesteryear you're imagining.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by KptMarchewa »

swalling wrote: post #42
vianneychevalie wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend working at Campari told me their strategy is to cut off supermarkets for a couple of years to focus on bar and restaurants, before an increase in pricing and a comeback in a couple of years.

Fascinating, thanks for sharing. They honestly need to try tweaking the recipe too if they want to move upmarket again. To me the amount of sugar in Campari seems high compared to other aperitivo and amaro.

Not compared to the most popular one, Aperol.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #13
oh_my_goodness wrote: post #6

Probably a good decision even for the customers. Single-malt Scotch blew up in popularity decades ago, and my favorite brands just weren't the same after about the 1990s. I've stopped even trying.

I disagree: the popularity explosion was accompanied by the development of local production in surprising places. You can now find good whisky nearly everywhere. And to be fair it’s the same with herbal liqueurs. Don’t get me wrong Chartreuse is good but it’s highly likely people can find something comparable produced close by.

Is it "good whiskey" or whiskey flavored PGA.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by fknorangesite »

nemo44x wrote: post #80
baby wrote: post #55

It’s interesting how Chartreuse is this normal thing in Europe but seems to be this cultish cocktail i ingredient in the US. I personally prefer drinking it straight or in a Chartreuse tonic (some restaurants in Lyon serve it like a gin and tonic and it’s fabulous)

Once hipsters discover something it’s all downhill.

> hipsters

Is it 2008 again already?

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by Pxtl »

klodolph wrote: post #105
forgotOldLogin wrote: post #86

If you like chartreuse and want something in a similar vein, I'd highly suggest Strega, an Italian herbal liqueur often stocked on the same shelf as chartreuse.

Nearly every popular branded liqueur or aromatized wine has a number of substitutes available, but it sometimes takes research to know what they are. Easy to find Kahlua alternatives; it’s a coffee liqueur and that’s not hard to find. A little more challenging to find a Campari or Cocchi Americano alternative. There are lots of similar options and it’s not obvious whether an aperitif liqueur is a substitute for Campa…

Yes. The alcohol world's fixation on everything being strictly-controlled names makes the process of finding substitutes absurdly tedious. Like if I want bourbon but I don't want to support the red states that make it, there's no coherent term for "caramel-tasting corn-heavy whiskey".

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by cnity »

tom-thistime wrote: post #131
cnity wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is interesting, and I love your taste for weird off flavours. I lately have developed a new love for whisky that appeared almost out of nowhere. Something about the alcohol taste disappeared suddenly and opened a whole world.

Can I ask kind of Scotch you like now? There's probably something out there that I'm just not finding. EDIT: I'm open to things that I hate on the first sip. In fact that might work best for me.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because my tastes are very indiscriminate (I like pretty much all of them) and I'm not that experienced tasting whisky. I had the cask strength Laphroaig (10 yrs) and loved that with just a touch of water. Really wild deep flavours.
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