This is definitely a step in a good dieection, but why not have the battery user replaceable by unclipping the back cover? My last phone that had such user removable battery was Samsung Galaxy S6 if I remember correctly. It was a great smartphone. Why not come back to it? I can understand it compromises waterproofing, but for a non-waterproof phone? Why not?
Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone
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The newer microSD cards are quite fast. Not as fast as built-in storage but fast enough for things like photos and videos if you buy a card with the appropriate speed class. V30 512 GB costs about 40€ including VAT here in Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card#Class
SD cards are made for cameras etc, and they're good for that. They have sequential RW speeds to match common video formats at 1X speed or burst photo capture. The spec sheets won't tell you how terrible the random write speed is, and even the quoted sequential speeds aren't very good, but that's ok for cameras. I use a modern high-end SD card from SanDisk as semi-permanent storage in my MBP. If I copy anything to tha…
The SD cards usually used for mirrorless cameras, when recording video, have to write at 600 Mb/s. That should be plenty for most apps in phones.
(e.g. ProRes 422 at 4K 10-bit or XAVC-I 4:2:2 at 4K 10-bit)
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Maybe I’m missing the hyperbole, but almost all iPhones and Google Pixels fit into that gap. The base iPhone 14 is $799, the iPhone SE is $429, and there are older model iPhones in between. Even the base iPhone 14 Pro is $999, technically in the range. A Pixel 7 is $599, a Pixel 7 Pro is $899, and a Pixel 6a is $449. There’s perhaps a gap in the $150-$400 range, but used phones can definitely be found there, and I wo…
I don't know if the US market is very different, but in Spain I'd say like 80% of the phones people buy fit into that gap... Below $150 you only have the cheapest models by brands like Xiaomi, and over $1000 you only have the flagships. There are plenty of models in the middle, not only Pixels but also a plethora of offerings from Oppo, Samsung, Xiaomi, Vivo, Honor, Poco, etc. Name any [X,X+100] interval in that rang…
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Not saying there aren't use cases where it would be preferred, but you can still use truly wireless earbuds with a Bluetooth capable phone/laptop/desktop that has a 3.5mm headphone jack. You can't however jam a plug into a phone without a jack--the option has been removed. There was a time before the headphone jack was dropped that very few people had wireless earbuds or cared, and now that choice to switch was place…
USB c headphones are dime a dozen as are headphones with lightning adaptares. But worrying about ewaste from headphones and then buying an Android phone with a piss poor history of long term operating system support is looking at the wrong place
Why should I throw away headphones that work perfectly fine (or constantly lose and buy new adapters)?
It's not like removing the headphone jack helped in slimness or battery runtime – the iPod shuffle had a headphone jack and that worked just fine, almost 20 years ago!
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Even the 12/13 mini is bigger than the iPhone 5, which was considered the biggest phone a regular person could use comfortably with one hand.
Yeah! I had a 5S. I loved that little guy. Another reason I got the mini for the angles like the 5S. How much bigger is it? 13 is okay. But I should make it go back to 5S size
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Aren't those usually USB sticks? E.g. stuff like this: https://www.hardwareschotte.de/tests/Surfsticks Sure, having wifi hotspots would be nice, but this way you don't have to worry about batteries.
If I had to plug a surf stick every time on the device to use it as a phone or to connect to the internet via 4G, then of course I'd rather have it integrated with the device already. Wireless connection is not a nice-to-have, it is the key feature.
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Tell your management that usage of v6.0 is as good as gone, and you are wasting resources in doing any work to keep support for it: https://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobi... I you look at that data then you can see that the oldest version with any significant usage is v8.1. But even that is quite low, and you might do quite well in not supporting anything older than v9.0.
What management? I decide this kind of thing myself in that project. The app is open-source and for a nonprofit. I don't see much reasoning to drop Android versions above 6.0 because there aren't that many API changes that would make a difference for my case. It's not like supporting 4.x or 2.x, the "you gotta carry the reimplementation of a substantial part of the UI framework with your app" kind of annoyance. The a…
But most of that can be done with polyfills and transpilers, which the android gradle plugin does automatically nowadays.
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And they hated him because he spoke the truth. Phones being disposable is something we just accepted. A POTS phone bought in the 1890’s would work without modification until the 1990’s and still will work today with an adapter. Why? Because we didn’t have continuous protocol churn. If it was invented today in 2 years there would POTS/2, KETTLE, and a draft spec for POTS2.1 written on a used napkin but somehow already…
Some of it is to do with your so-called "protocol churn" but also the fact that a phone from the 1890's is order of magnitude less complex than a modern smartphone. It's really a ridiculous argument. Many of the required updates to a device are security related, perhaps they could write said software better so that there are never bugs...but software is complicated now; millions & millions of lines or code and dozens…
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#959Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…
> while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away Nope, you don't. It's just that somehow techies seem to have gotten this meme into their heads that an unpatched life isn't worth living. Can't update my phone within 1 microsecond of a patch being released? I guess I might as well just die. Much safer than risking the > The repairability sounds nice, but it…
It's a dangerous life given phones are now used for everything from banking and 2FA.
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#960And it comes with a 3mm headphone jack! Hallelujah!! I’m so, so glad someone is stepping up to fill this niche. My only complaint, and it’s kind if a big one, is that the screen is too damn big. I’m tired of phone manufacturers forcing me to carry a television in my pocket. I want something small that I can hold in one hand without a pop socket. I’ll trade performance, camera quality, basically anything for a phone w…
They basically need four models to pretty much cover all the bases: 1. Budget: - Basic processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - Basic processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen 2. Flagship - High-end processor/camera/space with 6 inch screen - High-end processor/camera/space with 4.5 inch screen
There is a very small minority of people who prefer smaller phones, but they make a lot of noise.
No one buys small phones - hence why iPhone mini was abandoned and most Android OEM's smallest models have at least 6.43'' screen