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A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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In an amateur context, I've paced about a half dozen races, half marathon and marathon distance. I've also served as a pacer for runners in the second half of a 100 mile race a couple times. The purpose of a pacer for amateur runners is to set a consistent pace and provide encouragement to runners who may be running their first race at that distance. Or maybe someone trying to set a new PR. Since most courses are not…

How do these runners knees not succumb to problems? Genetic lottery? I run 6 miles on a treadmill with zero drop & pronation inserts, stretch withe a calf wedge & still feel like I'm flying close to the sun with my knees.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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post #97

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Uh, "stop eating carbs 2 months before" sounds like bad advice that needs a lot of heavy caveats. As you know, carbs are precisely we need when going the distance. I know long-time runners who even eat pasta for breakfast before a half-marathon! I'm ~64KG and 180cm tall. And I feel light when running; I have almost zero excess fat. If I reduce more weight, it would be unhealthy. As it is, I could be called (healthy)…

> As you know, carbs are precisely we need when going the distance. This is completely false. You deplete your carb stores after a few hours (depending on pace etc), and then YOU ARE RUNNING ON KETONES, whether you like it or not. You physically cannot eat and digest enough carbs to sustain your pace for any longer period of time. Carb depletion can be a real shock for the first time. What happens is that your body i…

> This is completely false

No it isn't. The comment to stop eating carbs was aimed at someone who is trying to do a half marathon in less that 2 hours. Like you say yourself this is way to short to deplete your carbs, so to just stop eating carbs seems like exactly the "bad advice that needs a lot of heavy caveats" that the parent poster was talking about.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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post #102
post #45

In an amateur context, I've paced about a half dozen races, half marathon and marathon distance. I've also served as a pacer for runners in the second half of a 100 mile race a couple times. The purpose of a pacer for amateur runners is to set a consistent pace and provide encouragement to runners who may be running their first race at that distance. Or maybe someone trying to set a new PR. Since most courses are not…

How do these runners knees not succumb to problems? Genetic lottery? I run 6 miles on a treadmill with zero drop & pronation inserts, stretch withe a calf wedge & still feel like I'm flying close to the sun with my knees.

The old myth that running is bad for your knees. It isn’t unless you have a condition. What you may not have is tendons ready for the effort or the right supporting muscles. These can be worked on.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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post #45

In an amateur context, I've paced about a half dozen races, half marathon and marathon distance. I've also served as a pacer for runners in the second half of a 100 mile race a couple times. The purpose of a pacer for amateur runners is to set a consistent pace and provide encouragement to runners who may be running their first race at that distance. Or maybe someone trying to set a new PR. Since most courses are not…

But how do the pacers keep pace?

Thousands and thousands of miles of practise. Elite pacers can hit 400 m splits with sub-second accuracy by feel alone.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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post #102
post #45

In an amateur context, I've paced about a half dozen races, half marathon and marathon distance. I've also served as a pacer for runners in the second half of a 100 mile race a couple times. The purpose of a pacer for amateur runners is to set a consistent pace and provide encouragement to runners who may be running their first race at that distance. Or maybe someone trying to set a new PR. Since most courses are not…

How do these runners knees not succumb to problems? Genetic lottery? I run 6 miles on a treadmill with zero drop & pronation inserts, stretch withe a calf wedge & still feel like I'm flying close to the sun with my knees.

i would also like an answer to this. Unfortunately it is getting even worse as I age.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do these runners knees not succumb to problems? Genetic lottery? I run 6 miles on a treadmill with zero drop & pronation inserts, stretch withe a calf wedge & still feel like I'm flying close to the sun with my knees.

The old myth that running is bad for your knees. It isn’t unless you have a condition. What you may not have is tendons ready for the effort or the right supporting muscles. These can be worked on.

Go on, don't leave us hanging. Any suggestions on a workout to strengthen the muscles?

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

#108
post #54
post #49

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Why?

(An inference based on context. I don’t know anything about this activity.) Because they’re not actually running the race; they’re staff for the event paid to run part of it at a set pace. “Finishing”, especially in a top spot, would take the spotlight away from the actual winning participants. It would be inappropriate for non-competing event staff to take away the spotlight from the competitors. It would be equally…

Last time I saw a rabbit win at a track and field event the organizers were very happy to play it up. They had hired the rabbit to make it a fast race. When the stars didn't bother to run, it was they who were at fault, not the rabbit for finishing.

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The old myth that running is bad for your knees. It isn’t unless you have a condition. What you may not have is tendons ready for the effort or the right supporting muscles. These can be worked on.

Go on, don't leave us hanging. Any suggestions on a workout to strengthen the muscles?

It's one of those "How to get better at x? do x." things

for running, lowering your pace to "just above walking" speed will help you run much longer, and develop the muscles needed

Re: A runner who leads every pack and then vanishes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The old myth that running is bad for your knees. It isn’t unless you have a condition. What you may not have is tendons ready for the effort or the right supporting muscles. These can be worked on.

Go on, don't leave us hanging. Any suggestions on a workout to strengthen the muscles?

Weighted squats
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