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Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by difosfor »

nicky0 wrote: post #59
oytis wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, women are good though? > The study found that among men under 30 years old, over 60 percent are single, almost double that of women in the same age bracket. Meaning women are happily in relationships with men over 30 probably?

Yeah, the math on that is interesting. Either a huge proportion of women under 30 are in relationships with men over 30, or a lot of women under 30 are in relationships with men under 30 who are in simultaneous relationships with other women.

Based on the numbers from dating apps (only the top most attractive men being shown to and dated by women) it seems likely that it's women mostly having relations with those few men. And supposedly those men having simultaneous or just a rapid succession of relationships. This also seems to ring true to the experiences I've been told of by my male and female friends.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by Bancakes »

wiseowise wrote: post #12

> Faced with the choice between an energy-intensive, highly competitive dating environment and the low-effort rewards of porn, young men appear to be taking the path of least resistance. Why would they? And for thousandth time: porn addiction is a symptom, not a cause.

I agree. We've had sex toys and prostitutes for thousands of years.

Blaming porn is a weak band-aid on a deeper cut.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

igetspam wrote: post #77
PedroBatista wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a hell of an assumption. My informed guess is once you scratch off the Instagram paint it’s an absolute disaster too.

Many studies disagree with you thought. Here's one article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/why-bad-looks-good/2... Single women, it turns out, are the happiest. And then single women with kids. Men have to change or we'll become obsolete. Our UX, in general, is bad.

Interesting poll.

So I guess the comparison of 60% single young males vs. 30% single young females would be even more one-sided if we discount those who are willingly single and wouldn't want to change that status.

Life is hard for young men these days.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by tssva »

mseepgood wrote: post #29
nieksand wrote: post #18

I find it fascinating that this article only calls for young men to change their behavior but demands nothing of young women.

It's them who want something so it's on them to change.

> It's them who want something so it's on them to change.

Do they want something? Nowhere in the article is there any survey of men in this age group showing a desire for something different . Instead the author states their opinion that men in the age group should want something else and change to get it.

When a woman figures out she doesn't need a man or a relationship to be happy and successful it is considered an empowering realization and choice. When a man comes to the same realization regarding women it is a problem originating with the man which requires him to change.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

geysersam wrote: post #41
zztop44 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if women are dating older men, or if there is a gendered difference in the way people interpret the question (ie: what the definition of single is). Probably some combination.

Then older single women should be more common than older single men. Damn, it's so tough for the older women out there in the cutthroat dating world. Why don't young single men start dating older women?

> Then older single women should be more common than older single men.

Which is true, if you count widows as single women.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by cykros »

icare_1er wrote: post #88
geysersam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want something that you have a right to, other people have to change. Not being discriminated is not a "nice to have", it's a human right. Sex with attractive women on the other hand is definitely not a human right. Is it just me who finds it ridiculous that this has to be spelled out?

Well, if a recruiter does not hire enough blacks or women for IT, that's discriminatory, and social warriors want quotas. Why doesnt that apply similarly to young women "discriminating" young men ? Shouldn't we need quotas here ?

For what it's worth, legally mandated quotas for DEI that are externally imposed on private companies are also quite problematic. However, a lot of that trend these days comes internally, for a variety of reasons.

At the end of the day, companies, while people, are not humans, and they are ultimately owned by humans (call them slaves, if you will). Women, on the other hand, are not under the same sort of regulation, and, not being essentially livestock, are not and should not be subject to the same sort of regulation that may well at times be sensible when applied to companies. Companies, who, in turn, are given quite a few privileges to operate (such as limited liability for their owners, subsidies, privileged tax treatment for a variety of income sources, etc).

It's ridiculous that you needed this spelled out, but happy to oblige.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by igetspam »

Bancakes wrote: post #92
wiseowise wrote: post #12

> Faced with the choice between an energy-intensive, highly competitive dating environment and the low-effort rewards of porn, young men appear to be taking the path of least resistance. Why would they? And for thousandth time: porn addiction is a symptom, not a cause.

I agree. We've had sex toys and prostitutes for thousands of years. Blaming porn is a weak band-aid on a deeper cut.

Prostitution is high risk and expensive. Porn is zero risk and basically free because we all have Internet access already. Porn is not the problem but it is a serious crutch for those unwilling to address the actual problem, which is generations of teaching men and boys that intimacy isn't important.

I have male friends I hug and cry with. I have deep feelings of loss for my pet pig, who challenged my world view on "love animals" and made me rethink how and what I eat. I have a successful marriage with a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful women because I'm not afraid of emotional and psychological intimacy.

What sex toys exist for men that aren't just gross receptacles for semen? (I'm not into butt stuff, personally.)

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Post by unpopularopp »

Isn't that a good thing? I see this as a victory sign of feminism. Women no longer have to live their lives as a second class citizens. Marry > have kids > raise them etc. This is not the default path anymore and of course than means a lot of men would end up alone. Just a natural balancing and how things should have always been.
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