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Interesting. I bet close to all young skinny people with sleep apnea must remain undiagnosed. My generalist doc basically said "if you really insist we can do a polysomnography, but I'm pretty sure you don't have it, you're young, skinny and sporty. There isn't really much that helps that you can do about it anyway". I did insist and it turned out that I do have it. The changes in life I experienced are similar to yo…
I feel like that doesn't place enough weight on the bull hypothesis- the devices are bad because most things are bad, because being good is hard.
Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
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Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#122I am extremely affected by outdoors noise during sleep. Traffic, construction, kids crying, people shouting.. I try my best to convince myself "I'm perfectly comfortable, nothing's happening in my bedroom, whoever is causing that noise can not affect me in any way" but to no avail :( If the source is indoors, like the whirr of a hard disk (very annoying on recent Macs + external hard disks, constantly spinning up and…
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#123This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting. I bet close to all young skinny people with sleep apnea must remain undiagnosed. My generalist doc basically said "if you really insist we can do a polysomnography, but I'm pretty sure you don't have it, you're young, skinny and sporty. There isn't really much that helps that you can do about it anyway". I did insist and it turned out that I do have it. The changes in life I experienced are similar to yo…
The intensity of my sleep apnea varies from night to night, and you might be similar? Based on oxygen levels, mine also varies from subclinial to "medium" apnea. I was deemed not to have sleep apnea based on the take-home test or the in-hospital test... but I wore my oxygen-logging ring during the in-hospital test to check it was calibrated to the hospital's equipment (it was), and the specialist then diagnosed me ba…
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#125This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
> You must fix the root cause The main cause of sleep apnea is obesity, which ruins your health by just about every other metric you could measure as well. It’s good advice to address sleep apnea, but you’d have to dig a little deeper to get to the root cause (in most cases).
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#126> And I started taking antihistamines daily. Antihistamines can make you drowsy, ie. "brain foggy": (Quoting the web) Side effects of antihistamines * sleepiness (drowsiness) and reduced co-ordination, reaction speed and judgement – do not drive or use machinery after taking these antihistamines. * dry mouth. * blurred vision. * difficulty peeing. I take them sometime myself (for the same symptoms as the article) and…
Depends. More modern ones like Desloratadine which don't cross the blood/brain barrier usually don't do so.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#127This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
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While I sympathize > If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, will help you Is a blatant lie. A CPAP works for millions, including me.
CPAP for me was life-changing. I had sleep apnea when I was young, skinny and sporty. Then I got old, fat and sedentary and of course it got worse. I was falling asleep while driving. I tried a CPAP machine and could not stand it for more than 10 minutes. However my apnea got worse so that I actually did not want to fall sleep because I did not want to wake up choking and gasping for breath. Literally a nightmare. So…
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#129This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
I've had many of the same symptoms for years, I put mine down to a dust mite allergy. It's the bane of my existence! :D
I'm very interested in your experiences of surgery.
I've often considered this as an alternative to antihistamines or anti-inflammatories like Flixonase. I don't think long term use of either of those is good for anyone. (Antihistamines being linked to dementia and steroids being linked to membrane damage amongst other things).
Anecdotally two things I link with improvements are religiously keeping my teeth clean including flossing to reduce gum inflammation and improving my hydration later in the day. Obviously there's a thin line to not drinking too much water and having that wake you up.
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Can I ask what symptoms you had as a skinny / sporty individual with sleep apnea?
Either sleepy or tired-but-wired feeling. Reflux. Mouth breathing during sleep(dry/stinky mouth), jerking awake while falling asleep, waking up with a headache, breathless or more tired than you went to sleep. Bruxism. ADHD-like and memory problems. Low blood pressure with cold extremities. Nightmares.
Calcium is a massive stimulant when it combines with the catecholamines.
Omega 3's lower osteoclasts which release calcium from the bones unfortunately the western diet is high in omega 6's which will kill you slowly and contribute to poor health outcomes over a few decades. If you increase your omega-3's, your neutrophils will increase in size and B12 helps prevent neutrophils from hyper segmenting, which means a better quality of neutrophils. As vitamin C is stored in neutrophils, making it a highly toxic environment for pathgoens, your vitamin C levels will also increase. High vitamin C helps increase the iron content in the body, and Iron based Reactive Oxygen Species (FeROS) generate the most amount of heat in the body, which is why we feel warmer as kids compared to elderly people.
Vit K2-MK4 can also help reduce calcium from the bloodstream, I take 5mg of this before bed and sleep very well, better than benzodiazepines, anti-histamines targeting the receptors in the brain which block the feedback look that affects sleep, and other herbal sleep remedies.
If you are aware of the concept of having a glass milk and biscuit before bed, this is because casomorphine in casein in cows milk constitutes about 80%-90% of the protein in cows milk, and casomorphine is a biologically active opioid peptide very similar to morphine!
Tyrosine found in food, like cheese can act as a stimulate, especially if your copper intake is high, which could explain why the RDA for copper has recently been lowered even though copper is needed to make some interleukins which target a wide range of cancers! Tyrosine can make noradrenaline in the brain, a stimulant, which could explain the idea that eating cheese gives people nightmares. When Tyrosine is combined with Cysteine, it improves the mucous membranes so could help reduce your dry stinky mouth, the two make pheomelanin, which is better than just tyrosine on its own which makes eumelanin, although both an an antioxidant effect in the brain.
Thats just an outline of some of the things that can happen in your body when you eat, but some chemicals are better taken when you wake up (copper, tyrosine, cooked English breakfast), some are better taken when you want to go to sleep (carbs, tryptophan).
I mention carbs and tryptophan, because tryptophan is blocked or crowded out by about 5 or 6 other amino acids at the blood brain barrier which reduces the ability to get serotonin and melatonin precursors into the brain. The Kynurenic pathway which converts about 95% of tryptophan into about Also remember that RDA's should be viewed as the minimum recommended amount for a maintenance dose of you are considered healthy. GP's never ask about people's diets, because they prescribe licenced drugs, where any liability falls back on the drug company, and most people don't have the resource to fight big business as they generally have met the legal requirements laid out in law.
Not saying all drugs are bad, but I think we underestimate the importance of diet and how the food has changed over the last few decades to get us to eat more!