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Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by hackerlight »

Dalewyn wrote: post #22
bigyikes wrote: post #11

I was trying to read this charitably, but here’s a quote from Adams’ Twitter: > 1. Treat everyone as an individual (no discrimination). > 2. Avoid any group that doesn't respect you. The irony is that the second point is literally discrimination. Wholesale avoiding a specific race, regardless of your reasoning, is racist by definition. This is no different than Kanye talking about “the Jews”. Don’t take group general…

Respect is a two-way street and you owe no respect to those who don't respect you. If a group doesn't respect you, it's fair to ignore them. Tough shit if they are offended by the response. Plus, if you apply this to /everyone equally/ it's not discrimination. Also as already mentioned by another commenter: group !== race

This is anti-individualist and collectivist rhetoric. A "group" of heterogeneous people with different viewpoints can't disrespect you. Only a subset of individuals within that group are capable of that. All the other individuals within that same group are innocent. So this talk of grouping all Black people into a homogeneous group that hate white people is factually incorrect, anti-individualist and dangerous.

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by theshrike79 »

hislaziness wrote: post #12

I have always had this predicament. Should we separate the art from the artist?

I intentionally don't want to know _anything_ about the personal lives of artists I like, be they musicians, comic book artists or book authors. It's a lot easier to separate the art and artist if you don't dig into the artist's fandom at all.

I didn't figure out that Tracy Hickman of Dragonlance fame was a man until the 2010s - and I read the books in the late 80's / early 90's. Teenage me happily thought that the books were written by two women and didn't think past it.

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by laserdancepony »

figassis wrote: post #25
favaq wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, going on social issue tirades works pretty well if you are a progressive.

I don't know if calling white people a hate group would go well with anyone.

I read a Wired article recently that argued for racial segregation of websites.

If it it hadn’t been advocating that from a PoC perspective it would have been considered hate speech I guess.

[1] 2019 - https://www.wired.com/story/we-should-seriously-consider-seg...

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by flandish »

totetsu wrote: post #13
danjac wrote: post #8

Hard to say whether Adams is suffering from online radicalisation and cognitive decline, or whether he was always of this opinion and online radicalisation and cognitive decline have just meant he no longer has the self-control to hide it.

it can be called 'online radicalisation', but the ease with which many people I know can just start repeating crazy ideas they've heard on some podcast or something.. really scares me. Its like so many people on a search for meaning or dissatisfied with some part of their life are being funneled into people transmitting batshit crazy ideas.

“Manufacturing Consent” works in ways other than a nation state’s desire for war.

People are very much easy to mold. Thanks to the internet it’s even easier.

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by voisin »

55555 wrote: post #9
satvikpendem wrote: post #4

Is it really so difficult for people to just (to put it harshly) shut up and do their work? I don't understand why people, especially prominent people, feel to need to go on social issue tirades that jeopardize their livelihoods.

He’s rich already and so maybe doesn’t care?

JK Rowling has been clear this is her stance with respect to her bizarre anti Trans stance.

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by voisin »

hislaziness wrote: post #12

I have always had this predicament. Should we separate the art from the artist?

Should we or is it even possible? I was a big fan of Kanye West and now when hours music comes on my feed a find I suddenly don’t enjoy it after all his latest rantings. I get the visceral feeling that I don’t want to support him even by listening to him, so I can’t enjoy it the way I used to.

Re: Dilbert Dropped by Newspapers over Creator's Racist Rant

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Post by JesusLovesEwe »

hackerlight wrote: post #31
Dalewyn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respect is a two-way street and you owe no respect to those who don't respect you. If a group doesn't respect you, it's fair to ignore them. Tough shit if they are offended by the response. Plus, if you apply this to /everyone equally/ it's not discrimination. Also as already mentioned by another commenter: group !== race

This is anti-individualist and collectivist rhetoric. A "group" of heterogeneous people with different viewpoints can't disrespect you. Only a subset of individuals within that group are capable of that. All the other individuals within that same group are innocent. So this talk of grouping all Black people into a homogeneous group that hate white people is factually incorrect, anti-individualist and dangerous.

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