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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by dang »

jimnotgym wrote: post #526
dang wrote: post #424

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" Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Hi dang. I'm sorry it degenerated like this. I generally wanted to read what the hn crowd had to say about about this new device, but all I saw was the usual trolling by an all too loud group. 90% of the comments were (and still are) off topic at best. However I understand that moderation is not my job and rather than calling it out I should have flagged it for you. Since we are in a rare discussion though, I see a g…

The problem is more the upvotes than the comments because it's the upvotes that stick a post like the GP to the top of a thread, which creates all sorts of unintended escalations, as well as derailing the thread into offtopicness. But the only way to prevent this from happening is not to post such comments in the first place.

I think you're off base about "trolling" in this and similar cases. From my perspective HN readers just like different things and have different opinions. I didn't see any trolling or manipulation in the current thread for example. Internet users are orders-of-magnitude too quick to jump to such conclusions.

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Post by kitsunesoba »

dadoomer wrote: post #614
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Fairphone isn’t and probably won’t be available in North America, sadly.

I'm curious on why you think this. I really would buy one as my next phone.

See this forum post: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/can-i-buy-the-fairphone-4-in-t...

Previous versions of the Fairphone also weren't available in the US due to as I understand it hurdles posed by FCC approval (and I would assume the Canadian equivalent).

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Post by foepys »

scarface74 wrote: post #682
ryandrake wrote: post #593

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You are absolutely right and it is shameful what consumers simply accept for software support periods! I try to buy things that I hope/expect to work for 10, maybe 20 years. Appliances, cars, tvs, and electronics including phones. Yet software support for all these things lasts a mere 3-5 years if that. I have an iPad1 original that still works great! But software support ended a year after I bought it—over a decade…

Yes Apple should support a 2G iPhone that no cellular network supports

2G is still alive in Germany.

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Post by imwillofficial »

josephcsible wrote: post #684
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Yes Apple should support a 2G iPhone that no cellular network supports

Why shouldn't you be able to keep using it on Wi-Fi only?

You can if your router supports it

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Post by kernal »

cubefox wrote: post #439

Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…

The phone costs $150 and you expect more than 3 years of updates? Here's a hack to get 12 years of updates - buy a new Nokia every 3 years x 4 and get 12 years of security updates for less than the cost of an iPhone 13.

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Post by officeplant »

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Loving my Unihertz Atom (for a particular sports application). https://www.unihertz.com/products/atom if you haven't tried one. I agree that it would be great if Nokia did this product but in a reasonable size.

I've been running unihertz jelly 2 for ages and it's phenomenal. The only two annoyances I have are no 5g (I'm always tethering my laptop) and that google maps scooter mode just isn't available on this phone and there's basically no solution to get it working (and I'm hard pressed to figure out whose fault that is - google for failing to recognize the device location? Unihertz for failing to indicate my location corr…

Any idea if these work fine with android auto? First I'm hearing of this company and the Jelly 2E for $159 is kind of awesome.

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Post by jorvi »

lolinder wrote: post #465
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People willing to repair their own device is a niche audience as well. If you’re willing to go through the effort of fixing your device, there’s a decent chance you’re willing to flash a custom rom.

Screens yes, battery no. Or at least changing batteries used to be mainstream. Anyone born before the year 2000 should not be at all intimidated by changing a battery. I can't speak for Gen Z, it's possible they've lost that skill.

Replacing the battery used to be just popping off the back cover, sliding out the battery then sliding in a new one.

These days it’s a perilous task that requires multiple spudgers and picks, a screen heater, finger acrobatics to make sure you don’t slash or rip any fragile cables, and then you have to wrestle the battery from its adhesive coffin.

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #566
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I don't see a 3-year security update as an irony. In fact, I see that as a great gesture for the budget price point android phone has a 3-year software warranty. Nokia probably have done research on this pricing segment to know that the averaging budget android device lifecycle is about 2.x years and guarantee a 3 year security update to make the device more worthy, comparing to other brands at this price point. By t…

> Apple iPhone as the gold standard only provide security updates up to 6-7 years Laughs in Microsoft How about 20 years?! I have a laptop built in 2006, it runs Windows 10 and will be supported untill 2025. It can also run software compiled in 1999! What platform can beat it, an IBM mainframe? Microsoft is the gold standard! Its a shame they never get credit for the one thing they do well.

Not much of a gold standard really.

I've also a laptop built in 2006, it runs [any flavour of Linux I want] and will be supported indefinitely.

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Post by Tao3300 »

dmix wrote: post #225
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Why do none of the good phone options get sold in the US??!? E.g. Sony has one of the few modern smartphones in a reasonable size (xperia 10II (might be the dumbest name though)), and way too few of the bands work in the American market.

You can't complain about availability of phones (or any electronics) while being in the US. Try living anywhere else like Canada.

Actually, you can.
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