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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by cyanwave »

mikepurvis wrote: post #514
kristopolous wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In practice I've been cycling phones about every two years. I just checked and all resources I've seen puts the typical lifespan around this. I don't know what the distribution looks like though. I bet the distribution curves change if you bucket the pricing points. 3 years is ok. After you buy it, they've made 100% of the money they're going to make in the transaction. They need money to come in to support such an e…

I'm still rocking an iPhone 8, and it's just fine for me— came out in Sept 2017. At this point I consider Apple's commitment to long term support to be a key element of my loyalty to them.

It’s true. They’re one of the best values if you can afford them all things considered. Store network, long term software. Quality of SOC, all components.

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Post by pengaru »

I think a lot of the people talking about battery replacement intervals being so long that it's pointless for this or that reason don't realize how quickly LiPo pouch batteries swell up in hot climates.

Every mobile android device I've used through a desert summer has ruined its own battery from charging in the heat. It's basically a yearly replacement schedule if I stay through summers. Sometimes more often if I require the device and it's entirely useless with a swollen battery.

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Post by Baeocystin »

mikepurvis wrote: post #514
kristopolous wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In practice I've been cycling phones about every two years. I just checked and all resources I've seen puts the typical lifespan around this. I don't know what the distribution looks like though. I bet the distribution curves change if you bucket the pricing points. 3 years is ok. After you buy it, they've made 100% of the money they're going to make in the transaction. They need money to come in to support such an e…

I'm still rocking an iPhone 8, and it's just fine for me— came out in Sept 2017. At this point I consider Apple's commitment to long term support to be a key element of my loyalty to them.

I hear you about support being a big deal. I'm still happily using my S10+, and am pissed that it just received its last update. It's working absolutely fine, and I have less than zero desire to 'upgrade' to a phone that doesn't have an audio jack, SD card support, and the ability to use swipe-style card readers to pay, three features I use on a daily basis. And yet before the year is up, I'll need to move on for security reasons alone.

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Post by nilespotter »

LoveMortuus wrote: post #507

I must say, I'm quite surprised that just by having a removable back it's suddenly a DIY repairable... My previous phone (Lenovo Note K3) that I replaced last year because it started to blue screen also had a removable back and the battery just slotted in, like it did with the old phones, which I find even easier to replace then what this phone offers. When I read the title I thought it was going to be a phone that c…

You can replace the display on this one too. Sounds like if your Lenovo Note K3 had that feature, you'd still have it.

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Post by jimnotgym »

IronWolve wrote: post #410

Wow SDCard and 3.5mm headphone jack. Very nice.

I didn't notice that. I really miss my headphones jack. A couple of nights ago I couldn't sleep, and wanted to put on a guided meditation without waking my wife... and I had to turn on my headphones, wait for the beep....wait for the led to stop flashing... I for one am much happier with wired headphones.

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Post by Arnavion »

amaranth wrote: post #346
idonotknowwhy wrote: post #312

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Or Australia. I end up importing phones here and missing out on some features our shitty telcos don't provide unless you have a white listed phone

In the US your phone has to be on the whitelist to even get service these days. They're using VoLTE as an excuse to lock the networks down again.

Not for T-Mobile, at least not yet.

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Post by IncRnd »

Angostura wrote: post #523
devy wrote: post #516

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I don't see a 3-year security update as an irony. In fact, I see that as a great gesture for the budget price point android phone has a 3-year software warranty. Nokia probably have done research on this pricing segment to know that the averaging budget android device lifecycle is about 2.x years and guarantee a 3 year security update to make the device more worthy, comparing to other brands at this price point. By t…

They should offer paid-for upgrades after 3 years

That would increase the cost of the phone, since they would have to support and test the phone long past the expected lifetime. But, this is marketed as a budget phone, so they aren't going to do that.

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Post by lucb1e »

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #527
lucb1e wrote: post #470

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Huh, guess I am just that gullible to buy the marketing to the point where I now wonder: how the heck can you have a removable battery and also survive being held under water? (It has an IP67 rating.) I guess waterproof everything except the battery contacts and trust that the salinity is low enough that the 5V doesn't jump between the poles, plus it not being wet for long enough to start rusting (IP67 afaik doesn't…

S5 checking in here - there's a rubber gasket all around the back cover.

Thanks! Seems so simple after all.

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Post by firecall »

cubefox wrote: post #439

Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…

Can you install your own Android versions?

How does it work Android in this regard?

I guess it’s not like Windows where if my hardware is supported I can install the latest supported version?

I suppose it’s somewhat interesting in the industry difference between supporting hardware with updates as if it’s firmware, and supporting software with updates like an OS. (Not advocating for windows for anything at all BTW)

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Post by strohwueste »

kristopolous wrote: post #508
cubefox wrote: post #439

Does anyone notice the irony of it being partly repairable, while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away? The repairability sounds nice, but it is very irrelevant compared to the limited software updates. Imagine buying a Windows laptop and only receiving three years of security updates. (I know, most other phones aren't better.) It would have been better…

In practice I've been cycling phones about every two years. I just checked and all resources I've seen puts the typical lifespan around this. I don't know what the distribution looks like though. I bet the distribution curves change if you bucket the pricing points. 3 years is ok. After you buy it, they've made 100% of the money they're going to make in the transaction. They need money to come in to support such an e…

There is great research being done by Marina Proske on why and when smartphone are being replaced. Recommend this talk (unfortunately in German) https://youtu.be/Hen7by8oo7g
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