they should raise the price $20 and give 5 years of updates.
gsmarena says this g22 will have a 3.5mm headphone jack too.
Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone
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#182Why is it so hard to add a removeable back cover to have swappable battery? Seemingly battery replacement can still be done "in 5 minutes" but this still makes pop-out/on the road battery swapping unpractical. https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/nokia-g22
With the Samsung S5, I’d take a couple extra batteries with me when traveling. Never had to worry about a dead battery or bother with a power bank.
That phone was waterproof but had a special ridge around the back panel.
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#183Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…
You'll still be waiting, I think. The Verge's coverage says it's not coming to the US: https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/25/23611844/hmd-nokia-g22-re... (I've similarly been wanting a FairPhone here.)
Why do none of the good phone options get sold in the US??!? E.g. Sony has one of the few modern smartphones in a reasonable size (xperia 10II (might be the dumbest name though)), and way too few of the bands work in the American market.
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#184I'm happy about this! But, while repairability is always great, a major (maybe the biggest) part of phone obsolescence is due to software. 2 or 3 years of updates are a joke, Apple does up to 8. The best hope here is that this phone's repairability will attract a software hacking community to provide inofficial updates, but what a terrible thing to have to rely on. Besides: Phones by other brands like Pocophone are p…
> 2 or 3 years of updates are a joke, Apple does up to 8.
Saying an iPhone can handle 8 generations of iOS updates is a bigger joke. I’m a cheapskate that somehow uses Apple phones, and I’ll let you know after 2-3 major OS updates the performance is always severely diminished.
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#185Wow HN. I really interesting new product comes out, a really interesting turn in the right to repair debate, and a return of a famous brand. And instead of talking about that, there are a series of threads about how an iphone costing 5 times as much and is famously difficult to repair is a better phone than this. Get a grip! Can we not have a least one conversation without Apple fanbois wading in?
I've been looking for a browser extension I could use to filter certain things out from my internet feeds. For example making anything related to Apple completely vanish for me. I wonder could the GPT be utilized for this?
User-scripts is what you're looking for, commonly use to customize your browsing experience with small JS scripts. Can be run with for example TamperMonkey. Writing a script that blacks out or filters comments with a mention of Apple would be trivial ("if .comment's innerText contains Apple, $element.remove()" in short)
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#186Wow HN. I really interesting new product comes out, a really interesting turn in the right to repair debate, and a return of a famous brand. And instead of talking about that, there are a series of threads about how an iphone costing 5 times as much and is famously difficult to repair is a better phone than this. Get a grip! Can we not have a least one conversation without Apple fanbois wading in?
The positive (and there's plenty of criticism; search and read) point being made about iphone is that it has a longer support duration. This seems highly complementary to repairability -- both seem important to maximize useful life -- and thus an entirely fair point, no?
I'm recently on my 4th Android smartphone in 12 years (Galaxy S, Moto G, Pixel 2, Pixel 7) and would be still on the Pixel 2 if not for lack of updates, as it's still completely fine hardware wise. I guess if I had been an Apple fanboi, I would've had at least 1 fewer phones in that time period. Really made me think this last time. Hoping my eventual 5th smartphone will have very long support and very good repariability.
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What phone do you have that has a battery that big?
I ran a Samsung S5 (?) like this many, many years ago and it was pretty cool but holy crap it was a beast. My jeans pockets started to stretch out from carrying it, and it was impossible to keep it in a jacket pocket at all.
I did similar with a galaxy S4 (third party battery w/special back case to accommodate the larger size). Worked nice but eventually the battery bulged.
The tradeoff with replaceable batteries is if when you swap the phone loses track of time until finding a cell tower. Fine if in range but a risk when hiking far away, and might also propagate the wrong time to your smartwatch.
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#188Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…
Hopefully, the bootloader is unlocked for third party ROMs like Lineage and others
Honestly it would be a huge selling point for this device if it had excellent custom ROM support on top of the repairability. There are phones from 2015 still being supported today by Lineage.
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>I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. My local bank requires 9 or above >Also... even if the app stops working, you can use a web browser still. It's not uncommon at all for banks to have a website that's virtually impossible to use on mobile browsers.
Even at 9, thats supported from devices bought in 2016 or later. Who's battery lasts > 6-7 years?
But why should the device life be limited by the battery?
This thread is discussing a phone with replaceable battery. For at least 5 years.
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22.99 + 44.99 = 67.98 149.99 / 67.98 = 2.206 So the new phone costs >2x. Also, why do you need to replace the battery after 1 year, let alone the screen?
New phone does not mean the same model. New phone usually has more features and a newer version of Android. That’s how consumers usually think about the benefits of a new phone I guess. Very few people care about sustainability.
Can't argue with "few people care", but I'm just not sure what "new features" or other nonsense you'd be getting.
I think much of the new phone-buying, Apple fanboys aside, is that carriers make it easy to constantly upgrade with "$0" upgrade plans (where you basically end up paying the full cost of the phone anyway.) Legislation to ban or shape this kind of advertising could be beneficial to reduce e-waste.