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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

fdaryfdyfgd wrote: post #143
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsung S10E since early 2021. There's still nothing it can't do. Prior to that I owned a Galaxy S7 since 2016! That's a 5 whole years without any phone issues on an Android phone. I turned on the S7 a few months back and after an update, all the apps still work.

that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc. not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop

On the S7 I got security updates up until September 2020 IIRC. I anticipate the S10E will continue to receive security updates for just a little while longer and it's currently on Android 12.

My point was that old Android phones "not working" after a few years is complete bs. The S10E was launched in March 2019 and still going strong.

EDIT: Looks like the S10E is still getting monthly security updates too: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-g970f/xeo/doc.html

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Post by jimnotgym »

Wow HN. I really interesting new product comes out, a really interesting turn in the right to repair debate, and a return of a famous brand.

And instead of talking about that, there are a series of threads about how an iphone costing 5 times as much and is famously difficult to repair is a better phone than this. Get a grip! Can we not have a least one conversation without Apple fanbois wading in?

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Post by system16 »

pjmlp wrote: post #55
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

iPhones drag to a crawl after a couple of OS updates when the hardware is no longer up to the stuff of the latest iOS versions. I only change phones when they die in some form, so 300 euros every 5 years on average is more than enough, I am not buying phones with laptop prices. I have anyway access to Apple devices via project assignments in consulting projects.

My experience does not align with this at all. I've been using an iPhone XS for nearly 5 years. Other than wishing it had a more powerful camera, I haven't felt the need to get a new phone at all. Sure, it's not as snappy as my wife's brand new iPhone 14 Pro, but I can easily live with it for another year or two.

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Post by yazzku »

f311a wrote: post #159

> The Nokia G22 will cost from £149.99 shipping on 8 March with replacement parts costing £18.99 for a charging port, £22.99 for a battery and £44.99 for a screen. So, after a year of use the cost of replacing a battery and the screen will be close the market value of a used phone. A lot of people will go for a new phone.

22.99 + 44.99 = 67.98

149.99 / 67.98 = 2.206

So the new phone costs >2x.

Also, why do you need to replace the battery after 1 year, let alone the screen?

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Post by aaronchall »

f311a wrote: post #159

> The Nokia G22 will cost from £149.99 shipping on 8 March with replacement parts costing £18.99 for a charging port, £22.99 for a battery and £44.99 for a screen. So, after a year of use the cost of replacing a battery and the screen will be close the market value of a used phone. A lot of people will go for a new phone.

Perhaps close in absolute terms but still less than half the total price.

I have never had to replace a screen before, but I have bought new batteries to replace on my own. An easily replaceable one would be nice.

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Post by Illotus »

haunter wrote: post #47

https://browser.geekbench.com/search?q=nokia+g22 It's on the level of a 2017 Google Pixel 2. I mean not bad but it' also £150/200€. For that much I'd rather get a used iPhone 11.

Largely depends on the market, where I am used iPhone 11 without major flaws costs little over 300 euros.

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Post by aeyes »

system2 wrote: post #110

Time flies and 3 years update is nothing. Remember the beginning of covid days? More than 3 years ago. So if you bought this phone those days now it was in the garbage bin. I don't want to spend time and effort to buy a phone every 2-3 years. Buy an iPhone, they replace the battery for you for $69 even after 3 years. iPhones are rock-solid and get 6-7 years of updates.

But your device is still perfectly usable after the last update. It will probably take at least 2 years before apps refuse to work on that version.

By the way: In 3 days iPhone battery replacement price will go up by $20, not such a good deal anymore. I can buy a budget phone at this price point.

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Post by f311a »

yazzku wrote: post #164
f311a wrote: post #159

> The Nokia G22 will cost from £149.99 shipping on 8 March with replacement parts costing £18.99 for a charging port, £22.99 for a battery and £44.99 for a screen. So, after a year of use the cost of replacing a battery and the screen will be close the market value of a used phone. A lot of people will go for a new phone.

22.99 + 44.99 = 67.98 149.99 / 67.98 = 2.206 So the new phone costs >2x. Also, why do you need to replace the battery after 1 year, let alone the screen?

New phone does not mean the same model. New phone usually has more features and a newer version of Android.

That’s how consumers usually think about the benefits of a new phone I guess. Very few people care about sustainability.

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Post by jokoon »

wolfskaempf wrote: post #129
jokoon wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

android is open source, nobody can answer me why the pinephone doesn't use android instead android doesn't require google services to work

In fact there are versions of Android that run on the PinePhone like GloDroid, but it's really not the goal. The goal behind efforts like the Librem 5 or PinePhone is not to create yet another Android phone, which Open Source or not will strengthen the Duopoly of Google and Apple in the Mobile Phone Operating System market. The goal is to create hardware that can jump-start the development of a true GNU/Linux Mobile…

why is not the goal?

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Post by toss1 »

LinuxBender wrote: post #6
cwiggs wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What phone do you have that has a battery that big?

ulefone Armor. There are a couple other models that have a 13200mAh battery.

Wow - what a great find! I'll be keeping track of that crew for my next phone! ('tho they don't seem to currently support Verizon network)
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