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My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by alasdair_ »

andrepd wrote: post #388
toss1 wrote: post #330

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Yup, Microsoft can't even keep straight their account management, yet they are insisting on depreciating the local-only accounts. I strictly use the local-only setup. I'm sort of OK if they still leave a relatively trivial backdoor to do this, but if they ever flat require an online account, I'm out, hard. This is partially due to wanting to avoid the hassle and management of yet-another-forking-online-acct-IDGAF-abo…

> I'm sort of OK if they still leave a relatively trivial backdoor to do this, but if they ever flat require an online account, I'm out, hard Sounds like a huge pain to deal with. Why not switch to Linux and be done with it? Genuine question.

Games are the main reason for me. I want max performance on my high end gaming pc and I want all the things to just work, including 7.1 surround sound (and atmos later) and HDR and gsync and all my accessories and all the anticheat etc.

I know valve have done great stuff but is it good enough yet to run everything on a AAA game on 4k ultra with hdr, gsync and 144hz?

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by hexmiles »

gchadwick wrote: post #26

Auth with MS accounts is a giant mess. When I was a city councillor I had a corporate O365 account from the council (used for council email and virtual meetings over teams) and simply trying to sign out of the thing or switch to another account was always fraught (I've got a personal account that's basically just to associate my windows license with and a work account used for azure access). You'd often end up in a s…

We also have some (a lot) problem with Teams, to the point that I started recommending my colleagues to use it from a browser and nuke cookie and other data every time the authentication stopped working.

Basically when we login we need to use the "personal account" but sometimes it will not ask what account to use and automatically choose the wrong one, and once it gets stuck in this state i didn't find a way to fix it.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by daemin »

inversetelecine wrote: post #266
beAbU wrote: post #242

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This issue has been bugging me since Windows 7. Only "proper" solution is to /not/ sign into your MS account when seeting up the new machine for the first time. Create a local account with the name as you want it, and then only afterwards link it with your MS account (if you have to). Only problem is, latest Win11 installer does not allow you to create a local account anymore at all. So you need to install Win10, do…

If you can't bypass the Win11 online account requirement by being offline during install, then try this: In the "Let's connect you to a network" page, use these steps: * Use the Shift + F10 keyboard shortcut to open Command Prompt. * Type the following command to release the current network configuration and press Enter: oobe\bypassnro Note: The command is a single phrase without spaces. Note2: This will reboot the m…

Here's the way to do it in video form: https://youtu.be/EOUcvgqOV-0 (JayzTwoCents Youtube channel)

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by katbyte »

alasdair_ wrote: post #411
andrepd wrote: post #388

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> I'm sort of OK if they still leave a relatively trivial backdoor to do this, but if they ever flat require an online account, I'm out, hard Sounds like a huge pain to deal with. Why not switch to Linux and be done with it? Genuine question.

Games are the main reason for me. I want max performance on my high end gaming pc and I want all the things to just work, including 7.1 surround sound (and atmos later) and HDR and gsync and all my accessories and all the anticheat etc. I know valve have done great stuff but is it good enough yet to run everything on a AAA game on 4k ultra with hdr, gsync and 144hz?

I left windows for ps4/5 and mac a decade ago but have been toying with the idea of a beefy proxmox server with pci passthrough for a nice windows gaming setup which going by LTT videos is more then capable enough to run AAA game. It’s still windows but at least it’s a vm and your hardware can be shared with a primary Linux desktop vm etc

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by a_e_k »

MereInterest wrote: post #251
rightbyte wrote: post #201

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Ye clear selection bias. Most users can't describe a problem in enough detail to get to "2nd line" support in the first place. You more or less need to be a dev-ish person to prove IT is at fault. The lusers have to live with the unplug the computer and reboot workarounds.

A few years ago, there was a video game developer who pointed out the disproportionate number of bug reports that came from their Linux players, and how grateful they were for it. The majority of the bugs reported by Linux users were not Linux-specific, and frequently had detailed descriptions of expected via observed behavior, exact steps to reproduce, core dumps, etc. Because the bug reports were coming from a grou…

HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978086

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by katbyte »

trinsic2 wrote: post #383
philliphaydon wrote: post #75

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Windows is no more bad than macOS or any distro of linux.

Microsoft's dark patterns philosophy and how that translates into real-world user experiences is the worst I have ever seen. And since they are implementing these dark patterns into the OS it has the potential to make using Windows very difficult. I understand that, with knowledge, you can get around that.. But I dont see why anyone would want to any more. Apple is really bad too, but there not as bad in the dark pat…

What are the ramifications of apples “end-user hostile decisions” aside from the walled garden on iOS? And having to click security -> run anyway for unsigned apps?

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by trinsic2 »

nazgulsenpai wrote: post #377
trinsic2 wrote: post #370

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I was thinking the same thing. I heard somewhere that nobody wants to prosecute Microsoft now because their systems are so tied into our our financial and political infrastructure that nobody wants to rock the boat. I also heard that Microsoft uses this as leverage against business that want to speak out against the dark patterns and deceptive practices Microsoft is involved in. "The New Goliaths: How Corporations Us…

I absolutely detest Microsoft, but I think that same argument could be made for most of big tech but especially Google, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle or even the link you provided there selling the book, Amazon.

Yes thats true. I think Microsoft is in a special position though because the have the dominate share in the business market. I'm not too interested in focusing on the "Other the bad apples to" as it distracts from the actual problem: "Dark Patterns" and our allowing of them as a society. I take the approach that external manifestations come from our inner states of being from every human on the planet. We allow these things to happen because of where we are at as humans in society, at this current state of our evolution. Maybe it will change someday, maybe not.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by NorwegianDude »

Microsoft is well known to not take security serious at all. Some years ago people was able to contact Skype business support and change the password of accounts as long as they could tell them some of the contacts and the email of the account. Absolutely insanely irresponsible.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by ly3xqhl8g9 »

nytesky wrote: post #281
ly3xqhl8g9 wrote: post #47

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Solution: run Windows in a VM, one machine per account, nuke it from orbit when-not-if something goes awry. Hundreds of hours of frustration prevented from a system that is not even able to have the same UI across all its windows.

How do you get an instance of licensed Windows to run within the VM?

It's a more or less regular install: a quick search [1].

[1] https://geekflare.com/windows-11-in-virtual-box.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Post by ZiiS »

alasdair_ wrote: post #411
andrepd wrote: post #388

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> I'm sort of OK if they still leave a relatively trivial backdoor to do this, but if they ever flat require an online account, I'm out, hard Sounds like a huge pain to deal with. Why not switch to Linux and be done with it? Genuine question.

Games are the main reason for me. I want max performance on my high end gaming pc and I want all the things to just work, including 7.1 surround sound (and atmos later) and HDR and gsync and all my accessories and all the anticheat etc. I know valve have done great stuff but is it good enough yet to run everything on a AAA game on 4k ultra with hdr, gsync and 144hz?

Not yet at all anticheet just working but you may be surprised. Where Wine works it can even give higher framerates; rarly lower. Whilst I am sure some accessories are better in windows; an old gameport Sidewinder (ms hardware) works better in Linux.
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