Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

theguardian.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

111–120 of 1001 posts

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#111

Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

a1371 wrote: post #104

This seems like a Savvy move from Nokia. At least in my country, Nokia phones are remembered for the following: - nearly indestructible - well priced - back pops out Nokia is doing the most sensible thing to reuse these as its differentiator. I understand people taking about the OS. But Nokia has little control over the software and it has also never been its selling point for me with Symbian, and later Windows Phone…

Did Nokia used to manufacture there own phones?

Or have they always just done design - like Apple - and someone else manufactured them?

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#112

Post by qwytw »

pjmlp wrote: post #55
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

iPhones drag to a crawl after a couple of OS updates when the hardware is no longer up to the stuff of the latest iOS versions. I only change phones when they die in some form, so 300 euros every 5 years on average is more than enough, I am not buying phones with laptop prices. I have anyway access to Apple devices via project assignments in consulting projects.

After a couple of OS updates any iPhone is still faster than an average Android phone sold at the time.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#113

Post by indymike »

circuit10 wrote: post #109

Why does it have a notch but a thick bottom bezel? I thought the point of the notch was so that you could make the screen cover the whole display? Why can they not just move the screen down a bit to get the bezel to the top, remove the notch and put the camera at the top?

This is pretty common on lower-end devices and I think the answer is it looks more "high end" to they buyer.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#114

Post by eropple »

jstummbillig wrote: post #98
eropple wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> iPhones drag to a crawl after a couple of OS updates when the hardware is no longer up to the stuff of the latest iOS versions. Not really, and definitely not with more modern ones. I have an iPhone 11 from 2019. It was released with iOS 13. It is now running iOS 16.1.1. It is as snappy as the day I bought it. I'm considering a phone upgrade, but that's because of the improved camera, not performance (or even batte…

> Not really, and definitely not with more modern ones. I have an iPhone 11 from 2019. It was released with iOS 13. It is now running iOS 16.1.1. It is as snappy as the day I bought it. I mean.. that is (on average) roughly 2.5 years old. If your phone was expensive and is still fairly new, then it's not going to be affected by the stuff that pertains old, mid-tier phones, before it gets even older than those. That's…

I bought mine at release, to replace an iPhone 6 (which itself replaced an Android device of higher spec because I was tired of the treadmill and a friend sold it to me used). So mine's closer to 3.5 years old than to 2.5.

And when you slot that against Android options, 3.5 years is a lot for a usable, secure life of a mobile device. I can safely assume I'll get five years of good, secure perf out of any Apple device from the last five years and another 2-3 years (at minimum) of tolerable performance, and that's pretty hard to argue with in this market.

Don't get me wrong, it's not enough and I'd like it to be better; I'd like all hardware reusability to be better. I'm pretty big on it; I still have an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7 in use as house kiosks (which sidesteps the security issue that phones necessarily have). But if I am maximizing useful life, buying Apple devices has been less fraught for most, if not all, of my adult life.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#115

Post by paulryanrogers »

therealasdf wrote: post #108
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

Samsung offers 5 years of support.

Certain models and only starting last year. So an improvement, yet still requires one do research.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#116

Post by bitL »

circuit10 wrote: post #109

Why does it have a notch but a thick bottom bezel? I thought the point of the notch was so that you could make the screen cover the whole display? Why can they not just move the screen down a bit to get the bezel to the top, remove the notch and put the camera at the top?

Ask HMD, they made some boneheaded design decisions in the last gen, thinking they are Apple to get away with it. Their sales showed otherwise and now they probably need to get rid of components they bough in advance, so here comes a repairable phone.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#117

Post by flykespice »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #88
bmacho wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? A phone that has no updates, functional or security still can do a lot of things very well.

It’s also a massive security risk.

How often do you run into security riskd when using your phone everyday?

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#118

Post by secondcoming »

tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

My current Nokia phone has 3 years of support

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#119

Post by amelius »

xnyan wrote: post #82
camhart wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I have 5+ year old Android phones that have no issue with banking apps. I'm not sure where this rhetoric is coming from, but it doesn't align with my experience on Android. Capital one/wells fargo requires android 8+. Citi bank 7.1+. (I stopped looking it up at this point). 8 was released in 2017. So assuming 2 years of major OS updates, that means roughly phones from 20…

>I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. My local bank requires 9 or above >Also... even if the app stops working, you can use a web browser still. It's not uncommon at all for banks to have a website that's virtually impossible to use on mobile browsers.

Yeah, using the website is cumbersome compared to using the banking app, in my bank's case, especially on mobile.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

#120

Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

throwanem wrote: post #52
poisonborz wrote: post #50

Why is it so hard to add a removeable back cover to have swappable battery? Seemingly battery replacement can still be done "in 5 minutes" but this still makes pop-out/on the road battery swapping unpractical. https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/nokia-g22

The tradeoff is "back cover that comes off in an instant, whenever you want it to" versus "back cover that comes off in an instant, even when you don't want it to."

Why can't the back cover just screw on and off?

How often do you need to replace your battery? Maybe twice in 4 years? What percentage of people keep a phone for more than 4 years? 5%?

Post reply on HN