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My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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It is for this very reason that I have a half dozen Microsoft accounts, Google accounts and so forth. Using your personal accounts for any business purposes is likely to end up like this either sooner or later (when the provider decides to change some organization schema).

Given the advent of and ease of use of password managers, I'd rather just have another set of credentials than risk the inconvenience.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Auth with MS accounts is a giant mess. When I was a city councillor I had a corporate O365 account from the council (used for council email and virtual meetings over teams) and simply trying to sign out of the thing or switch to another account was always fraught (I've got a personal account that's basically just to associate my windows license with and a work account used for azure access). You'd often end up in a s…

My son has a personal Windows 11 Lenovo laptop and he is signed in with his personal Microsoft account. The laptop went away for repairs because the touchpad no longer worked. When it returned, it turned out they replaced the main board so the bit locker keys needed to be entered again. These are typically stored in your Micsosoft account only they were nowhere to be found. Some help article on the MS website explain…

>>the keys are migrated to a school account.

>>Of course he has his important files in cloud storage anyway

So MS's defective key system is pushing people to keep their files in the MS cloud? When a defect in one product pushes users towards are more profitable/addictive product, that isn't a defect. It sound like the plan to keep users hooked into the MS ecosystem is progressing nicely. Once upon a time it was Apple getting its hooks into users while at school. Now it is MS.

Does one still need an MS account to play minecraft?

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Auth with MS accounts is a giant mess. When I was a city councillor I had a corporate O365 account from the council (used for council email and virtual meetings over teams) and simply trying to sign out of the thing or switch to another account was always fraught (I've got a personal account that's basically just to associate my windows license with and a work account used for azure access). You'd often end up in a s…

After spending three months trying to migrate legit accounts to MSFT Auth, I agree with this comment completely. Their account migration approach is broken from the start, but more importantly, there is absolutely no customer support. What should have been a 5 minute phone call turned into a 3 month long chat and email nightmare, with multiple support reps telling me there was nothing they could do.

Apple is not really any better. God help you if you accidentally lock your Apple ID, you will be subject to a month-long wait before it can be fixed. Why that long? No idea. Nobody at Apple has any idea why it couldn't just be 2 days, and they will frankly admit to you that it makes no sense, then spout some meaningless 'because of GDPR regulations' nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with GDPR regulation.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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We have a similar issue with Google: Our team has a Google sheet with some scripting that uses the data in the sheet to generate data to another system. This needs to be run using the company Google account. Now someone opens the sheet, runs the script and it just doesn't work. Why? Google just randomly decides to pick one of these: - The personal Google account the user has logged in to - The account used by Chrome…

Do people bookmark this script with the `/u/0` or `/u/1` URL component that depends on login order? See the comment elsewhere in this post about "authuser" which might help.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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Using same email address is deliberately asking for problems.

I once got enrolled to a school and they asked my email. Didn't know it was for teams access. Now, 4 years later I still get to choose wether I want to login in their tenant or mine everytime. Microsoft solution? Change my email on the personal account. Not kidding.

Can you 'leave' the organization here? https://myaccount.microsoft.com/organizations

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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MS messed up the design of their user and auth system completely. I can't even setup fingerprint for login on my local machine without Windows forces me to connect it to my onedrive account. An account that has nothing to do with my Windows account.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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All this discussion makes me glad I'm sticking to local logins for the Windows devices I still have to use. Once that option is gone, I guess that's the end of Windows on my devices.

Yup, Microsoft can't even keep straight their account management, yet they are insisting on depreciating the local-only accounts. I strictly use the local-only setup. I'm sort of OK if they still leave a relatively trivial backdoor to do this, but if they ever flat require an online account, I'm out, hard. This is partially due to wanting to avoid the hassle and management of yet-another-forking-online-acct-IDGAF-abo…

> they are insisting on depreciating the local-only accounts

That's just.... Insane. This is going to be a disaster. I'm so sorry, Windows users.

Re: My daughter's school took over my personal Microsoft account

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> and finally found a singular customer support page that happens to mention it That's the kind of results Google should be surfacing, but it lost the game, it is so useless now for precision searching.

Google should be surfacing things which paint google in a bad light?

Search engines, even evil ones, should surface useful information.
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