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UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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I once again find myself apologizing for my country and trying to explain that in 20 years our (very severe) boomer infestation will be fixed and we'll be a real place again. Sorry.

I'm afraid to say that in 40 years, the next generation will be apologising for you. Edit: by which I do not mean to insult you. I am saying that Britain has structural and cultural problems that transcend generations. It's popular for younger generations to blame "boomers", but in reality later generations will come in for the same criticism.

> I'm afraid to say that in 40 years, the next generation will be apologising for you.

No doubt they will be deeply critical of our permissive and egalitarian views.

I'm disappointed to see that teenagers these days are very much aligned with the Blackshirts, splitting off into increasingly fragmented groups that they define by their weirdass microdifferences.

I'll be dead by then, though, but I'll still be right.

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There is nothing wrong with this consultation, this article is a hack job designed to make the UK look like some anti tech loony bin. https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/computer-misuse-... Serizure of IP's and domain names backed by court order is a proportionate response to cyber crime. A magistrate is unlikely to approve such an order unless they have a good amount of evidence that the end-users of these d…

The courts are too busy. Cases like this, with one sided representation, they just do what they're told

Calls for UK ban on pre-payment meter installations made under court warrants https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/29/calls-for-uk...

Courts waved through warrants to forcefit prepayment meters https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64524156

Prepayment meters: magistrates told to stop allowing forced installations https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/feb/06/prepayment-met...

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This is something that comes up time and time again with our recent string of conservative governments, going back to Cameron. At this point I'm pretty convinced that it is a dead cat strategy to avoid us talking about the lack of fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets. Or maybe I'm just being hopeful.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

I live in the UK and do not follow the news. I am not aware there is a food shortage!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the UK legal system did to Turing was barbaric. Let's agree on that. > Had he not cracked the enigma's cryptography .. Err - that was some Polish cryptographers, they also designed and built the first bombes (mechanical decrypters). Enigma wasn't the only or most significant crypto system used by the Germans during WWII either - William Tutte cracked the Lorenz cipher and Bletchley was packed to the gills with t…

Wikipedia article "Cryptanalysis of the Enigma" from your first link mentions also Turing's involvement.

Absolutely, he came in late stage and built upon the work done by the Polish mathematicians who reverse engineered and "cracked" the enigma encoding in addition to building the first generation bombes that mechanically automated decryption stages.

I'm a fan of Turing's work, his crypto contributions, his work on the halting problem, his mercury delay line memory tubes, etc.

I'm not a fan of stealing credit from the Poles that deserve it.

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Production costs varying over the seasons or supply availability I can understand. I can't understand how /every/ UK supermarket chain made the same decision to decline the higher costs without asking myself if they spoke to each other about it. Emergent behaviour caused by racing to the bottom?

Anti price gouging laws prevent them jacking up prices when there is tight supply. They literally can't offer to pay more.

What laws? Would be interesting to see some analysis of this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Production costs varying over the seasons or supply availability I can understand. I can't understand how /every/ UK supermarket chain made the same decision to decline the higher costs without asking myself if they spoke to each other about it. Emergent behaviour caused by racing to the bottom?

Anti price gouging laws prevent them jacking up prices when there is tight supply. They literally can't offer to pay more.

This is nonsense. There is no UK "price gouging" legislation applicable to paying more to import foodstuffs

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Not enough. UK popular media reporting focuses on the supplier's blaming this on 'the weather', or energy prices in production countries [0][1][2][3]. No real discussion on how European shelves don't appear to have this problem. [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64718826 [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/22/aldi-asda-m... [2] https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-and-aldi-to-ration-some-veg... [3] ht…

A big chunk of the problem is competition law preventing prices increasing in events like this. Supermarkets in France just increase the price for tomatoes for a few months and pay suppliers slightly more to get the stock they want. In the UK, competition law prevents jacking up the price during a supply interruption, meaning suppliers prefer to direct scarce goods to France instead, where they earn more. That makes…

[1] "According to the BBC report, the UK “imports around 95% of its tomatoes and 90% of its lettuces, most of them from Spain and north Africa, according to trade group the British Retail Consortium (BRC).”

Morocco has responded to the shortage claims by noting that the extreme weather that has been sweeping the country has had a huge impact on fresh produce."

>In the UK, competition law prevents jacking up the price during a supply interruption

UK Supermarkets have contracts with suppliers which are not brilliant, its how supermarkets have become the controlling middleman in the food supply chain in the UK, and as they also employ large numbers of people in the UK, some 2nd only to the NHS which is the largest employer in the world making the USSR seem febrile, they can hold the British Govt to ransom with employment figures, like one did in the 90's when Labour got into power.

Just about the only thing they have honoured in the past is the MOD orders for food get picked first at the expense of the store's orders, during the Balkans conflict.

If a law or regulation does not exist for some activity, it will be exploited if it can make the supermarket money and they are so slow paying, ignoring your supplier credit terms, typically taking 6 months to pay up. They offload admin costs onto you by making you submit your invoices into their systems, but you can pay for a more streamlined efficient way to submit your invoices as another example.

They are not alone though, all big businesses have their questionable tricks, and one of the major causes of these shortages is lack of investment in the supply chain for extreme weather, in this case cold weather that hit north Africa and Spain. The UK has been living too cheaply, through efficiency and lack of investment, something COVID also highlighted to the world with JIT supply chains.

Elements of the global supply chain had little to no redundancy built into it for "natural" events, which COVID highlighted and ionosphere heaters[2] continue to highlight under the guise of extreme weather events! [3] The science is out there if you want to be informed and not be fed your opinions.

[1] https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/02/354180/food-shortag...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionospheric_heater [3] https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=846f8785-9613-4...

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A lot of Europe is suffering shortages the same though, it's just that in the UK the supermarkets refused to pay more. Whereas like here in Sweden you can buy tomatoes, but they now cost $10 per kg.

I still do not get why people buy those sad pale tomatoes in winter.

I've never seen a "sad pale tomato", regardless of the season.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not enough. UK popular media reporting focuses on the supplier's blaming this on 'the weather', or energy prices in production countries [0][1][2][3]. No real discussion on how European shelves don't appear to have this problem. [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64718826 [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/22/aldi-asda-m... [2] https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-and-aldi-to-ration-some-veg... [3] ht…

A big chunk of the problem is competition law preventing prices increasing in events like this. Supermarkets in France just increase the price for tomatoes for a few months and pay suppliers slightly more to get the stock they want. In the UK, competition law prevents jacking up the price during a supply interruption, meaning suppliers prefer to direct scarce goods to France instead, where they earn more. That makes…

UK competition law does not prevent supermarkets putting up prices, and the Competition and Markets' Authority to intervene in cases of abuses of market power does not extend to UK supermarkets being banned from paying more for imports than French supermarkets

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#90

This is the same country that considered their advances in computing during World War 2 to be so important that they hid them and left the USA to capitalise on the innovation. We'll leave our poor UK cousins to carry out their "techxit".

> considered their advances in computing during World War 2 to be so important that they hid them and left the USA to capitalise on the innovation Can you expand on that or provide a link? The codebreaking work (Colossus) was kept secret until the 70s but the researchers involved went on to successful academic and commercial projects immediately after the war, with ENIAC (a more general machine than Colossus) built i…

I think RSA is a more important example than WW2, but the GCHQ version was only 4 years ahead, 1973 rather than RSA's 1977.
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