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Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by HyperSane »

darreninthenet wrote: post #40
908B64B197 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

The monarchy hasn't directly interfered in government or law like that for a very very long time... it would have established a difficult precedent for Elizabeth II if she'd on day one suddenly did so

I consider this to be direct interference

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vette...

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by LatteLazy »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #51
LatteLazy wrote: post #46

I once again find myself apologizing for my country and trying to explain that in 20 years our (very severe) boomer infestation will be fixed and we'll be a real place again. Sorry.

I'm afraid to say that in 40 years, the next generation will be apologising for you. Edit: by which I do not mean to insult you. I am saying that Britain has structural and cultural problems that transcend generations. It's popular for younger generations to blame "boomers", but in reality later generations will come in for the same criticism.

They will!

Though I don't think any generation will every be as spoiled as the boomers. I doubt I'll get to pull half the shit they have even in my wildest dreams...

:)

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by kjcondon »

There is nothing wrong with this consultation, this article is a hack job designed to make the UK look like some anti tech loony bin.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/computer-misuse-...

Serizure of IP's and domain names backed by court order is a proportionate response to cyber crime. A magistrate is unlikely to approve such an order unless they have a good amount of evidence that the end-users of these domains and/or IPs are nefarious.

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Post by hkt »

HyperSane wrote: post #58
unxdfa wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fintech operations. Salary is very much fine over this side of things. In fact we get paid more than our US counterparts.

"In fact we get paid more than our US counterparts." That is almost never the case in the UK.

We also get paid holiday and sick leave, and can leave work at 5pm without anyone raising an eyebrow.

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by darreninthenet »

HyperSane wrote: post #61
darreninthenet wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The monarchy hasn't directly interfered in government or law like that for a very very long time... it would have established a difficult precedent for Elizabeth II if she'd on day one suddenly did so

I consider this to be direct interference https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vette...

Indeed if it's true and accurate, that would be.

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by hkt »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #51
LatteLazy wrote: post #46

I once again find myself apologizing for my country and trying to explain that in 20 years our (very severe) boomer infestation will be fixed and we'll be a real place again. Sorry.

I'm afraid to say that in 40 years, the next generation will be apologising for you. Edit: by which I do not mean to insult you. I am saying that Britain has structural and cultural problems that transcend generations. It's popular for younger generations to blame "boomers", but in reality later generations will come in for the same criticism.

Not likely. Millennials aren't undergoing conservatisation with age. We'll likely be the first generation to leave the country better than we found it since the silent generation.

There are historical reasons for why this is, too: the looting of the public realm in the 80s was designed to make working class people (largely boomers) think like conservatives by giving them a chance to "win" from their capital (especially houses) rather than their labour. Once you sell this stuff off, there's nothing left to bribe the next generation with, and here we are.

I'm sure we will make some mistakes, but we simply don't have the opportunity to do as badly as the current boomers are doing.

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by sirsinsalot »

nlitened wrote: post #24
908B64B197 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

If I understand correctly, the “chemical castration” that Turing was subject to, is the same substance that nowadays US kids with gender disphoria are prescribed.

You mean the effects of drugs have different uses in different contexts?! What?! That's amazing!

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by londons_explore »

Stephanemw wrote: post #50
andrewstuart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do people in UK feel about the food shortages? Do they blame brexit?

Not enough. UK popular media reporting focuses on the supplier's blaming this on 'the weather', or energy prices in production countries [0][1][2][3]. No real discussion on how European shelves don't appear to have this problem. [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64718826 [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/22/aldi-asda-m... [2] https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-and-aldi-to-ration-some-veg... [3] ht…

A big chunk of the problem is competition law preventing prices increasing in events like this.

Supermarkets in France just increase the price for tomatoes for a few months and pay suppliers slightly more to get the stock they want.

In the UK, competition law prevents jacking up the price during a supply interruption, meaning suppliers prefer to direct scarce goods to France instead, where they earn more. That makes scarcity in England worse.

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by timeon »

defrost wrote: post #30
908B64B197 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state forced him to undergo chemical castration. Same state kept his achievements and contribution to the war effort a secret up until after his death. Crazy to think he was convicted in 1952. Same year Elizabeth became Queen and head of state. She could have simply overturned his conviction. The man saved women, men, children, of all races and orientations from an horrible end. Had he not cracked the enigma's cr…

What the UK legal system did to Turing was barbaric. Let's agree on that. > Had he not cracked the enigma's cryptography .. Err - that was some Polish cryptographers, they also designed and built the first bombes (mechanical decrypters). Enigma wasn't the only or most significant crypto system used by the Germans during WWII either - William Tutte cracked the Lorenz cipher and Bletchley was packed to the gills with t…

Wikipedia article "Cryptanalysis of the Enigma" from your first link mentions also Turing's involvement.

Re: UK Proposes Even More Stupid Ideas for Directly Regulating the Internet

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Post by londons_explore »

Stephanemw wrote: post #53
nivenkos wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of Europe is suffering shortages the same though, it's just that in the UK the supermarkets refused to pay more. Whereas like here in Sweden you can buy tomatoes, but they now cost $10 per kg.

Production costs varying over the seasons or supply availability I can understand. I can't understand how /every/ UK supermarket chain made the same decision to decline the higher costs without asking myself if they spoke to each other about it. Emergent behaviour caused by racing to the bottom?

Anti price gouging laws prevent them jacking up prices when there is tight supply. They literally can't offer to pay more.
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