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Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

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Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

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By its nature, the strong two-tier economy that exists within Australia is not captured within analyses like this. The “law abiding” tier that pays employees the award rate, pays something resembling proper GST & income tax, and doesn’t use Proprietary Limited tricks to escape long-term liabilities — the companies in that tier are suffering (especially the smaller ones). These companies are captured in these analyses…

Out of interest, what makes you frame the two-tier economy like this? I’d always thought of the two tiers as rent-seeking vs firms that must compete, not small legal business vs the rest. For example you mention some companies paying award rate, but isn’t that a requirement for all companies? Obviously resource companies can afford to pay well above board, but isn’t that simply a function of high returns from rent-se…

Paying award rates is a requirement of all companies, but in reality many small and medium businesses don’t.

Small business pay under the table, offering certain perks to employees that make them OK with the arrangement.

Medium businesses use “contractors” where workers like delivery drivers aren’t employees but individuals (or sole traders) working under piecework contracts.

Neither of these are reported to any data-collecting body.

(which is the point I was trying to make above but I got a bit side-tracked!)

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

#42
>Jim received his Ph.D. in Economics from the New School for Social Research in New York.

https://australiainstitute.org.au/expert/jim-stanford/

Not a credible source of information. I invite anyone who disagrees to read the actual "report". It's anti-capitalist propaganda. I have no problem with criticisms of capitalism based on facts.

The cause of inflation is not a mystery.

Overall people accumulated record savings during the pandemic and spent it.

‘Damn lot of money’: How households plan to spend their pandemic savings

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/damn-lot-of-mone...

Add in Russia-Ukraine conflict, increased energy prices and here we are.

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

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There are so many threads here. The reserve bank governor is deeply unpopular in the broader public because of 2021 comments he made about there being no interest rate increases needed until 2024 [1]. As mentioned in the article, many companies are posting record profits, including supermarkets [2] - leaving low and middle income people hurting, and working more hours or side jobs. Those same people also face an adve…

> The reserve bank governor is deeply unpopular Only 30% of people have mortgages, why should the remaining 70% care, many can even put money in savings accounts again after 15 years of them being basically worthless. He never said interest rates wouldn't rise either, he basically said they don't forecast the conditions that warrant a rise won't happen until then. Here's a pro-tip if you took on too much debt under t…

People who can't afford to buy get stuck with borrowing costs being passed on, anyway, and get trapped in rent spirals. I do agree that some of the criticism of Lowe is undeserved, though.

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

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There are so many threads here. The reserve bank governor is deeply unpopular in the broader public because of 2021 comments he made about there being no interest rate increases needed until 2024 [1]. As mentioned in the article, many companies are posting record profits, including supermarkets [2] - leaving low and middle income people hurting, and working more hours or side jobs. Those same people also face an adve…

All very good points! We've had wage stagnation for ~15 years. I've long wondered what it is about our job market that keeps wages down whilst company profits continue to grow. Perhaps an unspoken collusion around wages, or maybe lack of salary growth in government jobs that in turn pushes the private sector. Lack of competition and choices is another issue, as is Australia's dispersion of cities. It's not straight f…

Indeed. Basic finance sure would be a great addition to the high-school curriculum.

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The reserve bank governor is deeply unpopular Only 30% of people have mortgages, why should the remaining 70% care, many can even put money in savings accounts again after 15 years of them being basically worthless. He never said interest rates wouldn't rise either, he basically said they don't forecast the conditions that warrant a rise won't happen until then. Here's a pro-tip if you took on too much debt under t…

People who can't afford to buy get stuck with borrowing costs being passed on, anyway, and get trapped in rent spirals. I do agree that some of the criticism of Lowe is undeserved, though.

Rent rises are more the result of extremely low rental vacancies in Australia

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

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post #21

It's yet another example of the gap that always exists between economic theory and economic practice. In this case, what we have is that every player in the food chain has taken advantage of supply shortage to eke out additional margin along the way. And why not? Your products are in demand and there are buyers who are willing to pay more than the theoretical market price. The actual situation is that even if competi…

>And why not? Your products are in demand and there are buyers who are willing to pay more than the theoretical market price.

What do you mean "theoretical market price"? What you're saying makes no sense in the context of standard microeconomic theory. If supply is constrained, then microeconemic theory predicts that the market clearing price will go up. Companies can always price their goods at higher than the market clearing price, but microeconomic theory would predict that doing so would result in less profits.

>But when its driven by external factors

What do you think the "external factors" are here? Companies suddenly getting more greedy?

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Australia Institute is a thinktank, funded by the Greens. The conclusion is already foregone, they work backwards from there, it's like asking ASPI about defense spending.

> Australia Institute is a thinktank, funded by the Greens Source? If true, this doesn’t belong on HN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Australia_Institute

>The Australia Institute is a left-wing[2] public policy think tank based in Canberra, Australia [...]

>The Australia Institute claims to not accept donations or commissioned work from political parties.[51]

Re: Analysis finds Australia’s inflation being driven by company profits, not wages

#50

It really does look like Australia tried to print its way out of the pandemic last year, and now its purchasing power hasn't kept up with other food, energy, and other inputs prices: https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/money-supply-m1 What should happen is a return of Bond Vigilantes: https://www.investopedia.com/bond-vigilante-6386194 , but if it doesn't, I'd wonder who is holding most of Australia's debt.

What are we meant to summarise from the first link?

I see a chart of total money supply with the y axis starting at 1640B and going to 1700B. I.e basically no difference

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