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Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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What's unique about food is that unlike smoking, drugs or booze, a human will always have to go back to eating, it's essential for day-to-day life unlike Jameson, Marlboro and meth. If you have a healthy relationship with food then you're fine, otherwise every day you're faced with willpower checks that you might struggle to consistently pass.

I don't think willpower has anything to do with it.

How come that you think this?

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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post #34

I believe 80 percent of all health issues faced by US citizens are caused by or at least exacerbated by dietary choices. I also believe that cutting carb intake to 30-35g daily would be a night/day change for national health.

Plus probably PUFAs

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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> Because it is. As you yourself allude to later... No its not. Its nowhere near demonized as it should be. > It clearly is not. I suspect the only people who believe that are the folks 'born on third base' as it were. It's a failure of self control. > Some people? The vast majority of people are overweight. Anyone who isn't fit & trim has no business commenting on anyone else's bad habits and moral failings. None. G…

> It's a failure of self control. Disagree. The root cause of the problem is that you can't apply to more willpower if you don't know how to actually fix it, and we don't. There are currently 0 known methods to lose fat sustainably. Yea, you can starve yourself for a few weeks in a thousand ways, but none of them lead to lasting fat loss. Neither does any kind of exercise. We need to find the true root cause, or this…

Based on seeing what is in most shopping carts, most people are not even trying to control weight.

Starving one’s self is not necessary. Not buying ice cream, cookies, chips, added sugar foods, and beer is necessary. Do not eat out, and do not let unhealthy foods into the house. And do not shop while hungry.

The root cause is all that unhealthy stuff gives everyone a dopamine hit they want.

Living in an environment that discourages walking and physical activity in exchange for sitting in cars also does not help.

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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post #40

Making GLP-1 agonists and related drugs (ozempic, mounjaro) cheaply/widely available seems like it would be excellent public policy.

It seems that they also make you lose tons of lean mass. Normal diets you lose 25% of the lost weight in lean, these seem more like 40%.

https://peterattiamd.com/the-downside-of-glp-1-receptor-agon...

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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post #25
post #9

Man, food is so addictive and not like you can just stop eating it like you can quit drinking booze or quit smoking!

For me, carbohydrate consumption and appetite are massively correlated. When I reduce carbs below 30g/day, my appetite is naturally suppressed (or avoids over-stimulation). Food feels much less addictive. It's easier not to snack in the face of stress. Keto probably added 10+ years on to my life expectancy. YMMV.

Same for me with eliminating carbs; combining keto + IF is pretty effective and I've lost about half of the weight from ATH to where I want to be through it. IF is nice because it provides an "all or nothing, but not forever" restriction, and keto is a reasonable framework for food selectivity. Keeping enough protein for not losing muscle and overall ideal; I wish I'd done this when I was 16 and not when I was in my 40s.

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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Man, food is so addictive and not like you can just stop eating it like you can quit drinking booze or quit smoking!

I don't try to adjust my food intake. Instead I adjust my exercise upwards if I gain a few pounds.

This has also been proven to not work for people who are already obese.

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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I don't think willpower has anything to do with it.

How come that you think this?

Ozempic and Wegovy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/31/opinion/ozempic-weight-lo...

https://archive.is/rnTGB

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/01/30/1152039...

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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I don't think willpower has anything to do with it.

How come that you think this?

Cause I just lost 48lbs without using any willpower: https://exfatloss.substack.com/p/losing-43lbs-in-144-days-on...

Re: Excess weight, obesity more deadly than previously believed

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Reminds of the parachute study that was shared here recently: https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2019/02/breakthrough-resea...

I love the meta irony of this article, taking the (somewhat satirical) journal article and playing along as an example of overblown science journalism with the headline "Breakthrough research reveals parachutes don’t prevent death when jumping from a plane". It's beautiful....

Did they even use a control group?! And was it double blinded?
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