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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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You are fooling yourself if you think libreoffice has feature parity with ms office, and gimp with Photoshop. Gimp doesn't even have feature parity with krita.

And Krita doesn't hold a candle to darktable for working with photography on RAW images. So? The point is that the basic features a students need to know will be covered by free software or there will be an alternative that does. Having feature parity isn't important if copying another software isn't a goal--versus just making something good. How many advanced GitHub features not present on other platforms do you thi…

I notice from your blog that you have links to a number of commercial services including Keybase. Keybase is another really great example of the disconnect between the underlying open source (GPG, etc) and something that is easily approachable and just lets people get on with the things they want to do.

We shouldn't use Keybase, but the nearest alternative open-source, Keyoxide, is not functional unless you're an engineer. Keybase on the other hand is perfectly usable without being an expert in the underlying cryptography.

Similarly Github has a huge number of features that a usable by people that aren't developers (PRs etc).

If you want a point to your side, GIMP is a bad hill to die on. Blender is a much better example of a tool that we should be teaching as opposed to Autodesk Maya (etc).

That's the thing with Blender though, it has feature parity with the things it's competing with and a community and network effect. For something open source to compete with GitHub it would need to be so much more than Git and offer the community and discovery that forms a big part of the "open" GitHub.

In the meantime people need to get things done. NOT teaching them the tool they're inevitably going to use is just a pointless battle to fight. Better to create the alternative first and lure people with straight up feature benefits.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Nope, they learned that stupid rules are there to be broken, just you have to be aware of the consequences and be prepared to fight and sometimes lose.

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I really do not like that you continue to call these students ignorant and arrogant.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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The skills you have to learn in order to use github effectively are pretty generic in nature and easily transferable to other platforms.

Is that why most people don't know stack-based Git flows or how to using send-email? GitHub only really works on the pull request model which is not the only way to use Git. There are pros and cons to these workflows, but if skills are generic, then you can just say "Git" or "Git forge" without needing to specify a platform.

Most major platforms use pull/merge requests.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Nope, they learned that stupid rules are there to be broken, just you have to be aware of the consequences and be prepared to fight and sometimes lose.

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> You don't succeed by being ignorant and arrogant.

You owe me a new keyboard son.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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> These young people learned a very important lesson: Rules are rules are rules, and they must be followed, even if they don't make any sense.

That is very obviously not the case, seeing how they literally followed the rules.

This isn't a case of pointless rules being senselessly enforced, it's a case of a teacher erroneously enforcing a rule they did not understand in a case where it did not apply.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Nope, they learned that stupid rules are there to be broken, just you have to be aware of the consequences and be prepared to fight and sometimes lose.

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The students were neither ignorant nor arrogant for interpreting the rules as they did. The person who graded their submission is at fault here, and the students deserve to be told this if they’re reading these comments.

Someone who doesn’t know the difference between hosting a git repo and generating a static site with GitHub is unqualified to judge this project. The real lesson for these students is that there are people in this field who don’t really know what they are doing.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Nope, they learned that stupid rules are there to be broken, just you have to be aware of the consequences and be prepared to fight and sometimes lose.

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>You succeed by being knowledgable, considerate, cooperative, and also knowing where to draw your line in the sand

Very ironic that the organizers lacked all 3.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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> Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files Github pages allows you to write index.md instead of an index.html, and therefore they count it as a webpage generator. Not sure if these kids used a markdown file for a page, but the capability is there and that makes Github more than just a dumb web server that serves html. Possibly the judges are non technical, jus…

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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Ah... student competitions... that brings up memories... When I was 15 or so, I took part in a tech competition for under 19 year olds. I designed and programmed a website for "grading" your teachers, complete with an admin interface for generating anonymous 1 time use codes for students. The goal was to make it easy for schools to allow students to provide anonymous, private feedback to their teachers. I didn't win…

Not RateMyTeachers?
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