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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by toastal »

themoonisachees wrote: post #47
toastal wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's precisely the thing we should avoid. Learning on free software like LibreOffice Calc would be better just like learning GIMP would be better than students learning Adobe Photoshop and demanding employers buy these licenses/subscriptions. You can self-host Git, but there's also plenty of alternatives that are built as free software.

You are fooling yourself if you think libreoffice has feature parity with ms office, and gimp with Photoshop. Gimp doesn't even have feature parity with krita.

And Krita doesn't hold a candle to darktable for working with photography on RAW images. So? The point is that the basic features a students need to know will be covered by free software or there will be an alternative that does. Having feature parity isn't important if copying another software isn't a goal--versus just making something good.

How many advanced GitHub features not present on other platforms do you think students are using? If the answer is none, then there's no reason to choose a proprietary service they can't hack on and are required create accounts with a for-profit entity.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by saagarjha »

Dalewyn wrote: post #48

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I’m glad that they didn’t enter a competition meant to spur interest in technology, do something fairly reasonable, and be disqualified because they didn’t read the fine print instead of focusing on the competition itself. Oh, wait…

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by Dalewyn »

olivermuty wrote: post #43
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They quote the rule and link to the full rules. GitHub is explicitly mentioned. They failed on a technicality. https://tsaweb.org/docs/default-source/themes-and-problems-2... She then points out this rule in the Official Rulebook: I. Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files, such as Webs, Wix, Weebly, GitHub, Jekyll, and Replit, are NOT permitted.

You only use the template engine if you go through github.io or if you look at .md files in the UI. So you are not even «technically» using the template engine part of Github. However root commenters sentiment is still very valid, the sooner you realize how many people who are not particularly smart also work in this business the sooner :D Developers are starting to become a pretty decent average representation of th…

Smartness has nothing to do with project requirements. If the requirements say "no Github", you don't use Github. It's really that simple.

The rules don't specify "github.io" or "load .md files", it broadly specifies "Github" the website "that generate[s] HTML from text" in no uncertain terms. If you then proceed to use Github, it's only fair you are disqualified.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by bitwize »

peterkelly wrote: post #28

This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by saagarjha »

number6 wrote: post #13

> You heard it here first folks, GitHub IS NOT the industry standard for code collaboration and version control, an expected tool for anyone entering the industry and a priceless skill for any aspiring developer. Git is, GitHub is not. Yes it gave us Pull Requests but it is just another Corporation build around Git.

You may not like it, but it’s true.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by rkachowski »

Dalewyn wrote: post #48

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> I'm happy to see them disqualified, it's a sign the world is still reasonably sane.

The author is literally a schoolkid.

The joy and validation you receive in seeing talented children denied recognition is fortunately not shared.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by Dalewyn »

rkachowski wrote: post #56
Dalewyn wrote: post #48

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> I'm happy to see them disqualified, it's a sign the world is still reasonably sane. The author is literally a schoolkid. The joy and validation you receive in seeing talented children denied recognition is fortunately not shared.

Yes, he's a kid, and I would hope he received a valuable lesson (for free!) in how the real world works.

In the real world, if a project you work on has specific requirements and you violate those requirements, you're getting reprimanded. If you keep it up saying "they're dumb", you're getting fired. Same lesson learned, but this time with an expensive price tag you will have to pay.

Reading and following the rules is a fundamental skill you need to learn and master if you want to survive and succeed in the real world. I'm happy that the education system is working.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by onli »

bitwize wrote: post #54
peterkelly wrote: post #28

This is one of those important events in life where you realise that sometimes those who hold seniority over you aren't necessarily as smart as you are. This experience will help you to cultivate a healthy disrespect for authority. We all go through something like this at some point. The best thing to do is to find some sort of constructive way to channel your experience. One path I would suggest is to consider launc…

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I'm really sorry you feel that way. I dont even disagree that this BS exists, but it is almost nonexistent in my world.

Just to say this is not the lesson the students have to learn.

Re: Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for Using GitHub

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Post by edflsafoiewq »

Dalewyn wrote: post #53
olivermuty wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You only use the template engine if you go through github.io or if you look at .md files in the UI. So you are not even «technically» using the template engine part of Github. However root commenters sentiment is still very valid, the sooner you realize how many people who are not particularly smart also work in this business the sooner :D Developers are starting to become a pretty decent average representation of th…

Smartness has nothing to do with project requirements. If the requirements say "no Github", you don't use Github. It's really that simple. The rules don't specify "github.io" or "load .md files", it broadly specifies "Github" the website "that generate[s] HTML from text" in no uncertain terms. If you then proceed to use Github, it's only fair you are disqualified.

You may have a future teaching high school.
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