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Apple orders entire supply of TSMC's 3nm chips for iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs

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Re: Apple orders entire supply of TSMC's 3nm chips for iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs

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Post by smoldesu »

wewtyflakes wrote: post #233
smoldesu wrote: post #161

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AMD had the Ryzen 4800u shipping with a similar power envelope and higher multicore scores. Battery life was a good few hours shorter than the M1, but it was also manufactured on 7nm versus the Apple's 5nm. Performance tends to favor people on the denser node, so it's impressive to see x86 still competitive by modern standards. If you need further evidence of this pattern, look at Nvidia's ridiculous 40-series cards.…

Customers care about this: > Battery life was a good few hours shorter than the M1 They do not care about this: > ...but it was also manufactured on 7nm versus the Apple's 5nm

I agree. It's worth noting that the 4800u was on store shelves 18 months before the first M1s were released, however. Apple Silicon was released into a market that had had already seen comparable APUs.

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Post by vel0city »

frereubu wrote: post #306
vel0city wrote: post #273

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Glasses help with focusing, but they don't help if your sensors (retinas) are just degrading. Putting a very fancy lens on a 0.3MP sensor doesn't give you higher resolution photos.

GP didn't mention degrading retinas, just age. I'm over 50 and need glasses but, while acknowledging that life is a one-way journey, I just don't like people talking like ageing is necessarily this slide into decrepitude after 40.

> GP didn't mention degrading retinas, just age.

Retinas degrading is a factor of age.

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Post by rOOb85 »

damascus wrote: post #281
anthomtb wrote: post #216

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>music pricing. For sure. My memory of those days is getting hazy, but IIRC CD's from top artists were going for $15-$16 in the late 90's. Maybe $12 if you were lucky. Considering inflation and that you might only want two of the twelve songs on the disk, you could easily be paying $10/song (in 2023 dollars). Big chunk of change especially for a pre-teen or teenager.

I miss what.cd. It was such a great way of discovering new music back before there were algos recommending stuff to you 24/7.

Like always, communities reform. There’s a Swiss site now that I’ll have to leaved “REDacted” that is just as good if not better than what.cd

Re: Apple orders entire supply of TSMC's 3nm chips for iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs

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Post by tristor »

Havoc wrote: post #158

At what point does this become a monopoly issue? Sure others could have outbid hypothetically so it is on paper fair but Apple has a lot of cash.

The thing is, that Apple cash isn't just buying the production of TSMC, it's funding TSMC's R&D of the next node that they're buying. Without Apple, it's very likely that we would not be continuing to improve nodes at this rate.

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Post by newaccount74 »

Merad wrote: post #366
newaccount74 wrote: post #209

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It's not just about the resolution, it's about physical area. My plan is to buy a 65" or 75" 8k TV and use it as computer monitor. I'll have a screen that is as big as my desk. A display of that size will allow me to have my IDE, source control, terminals, log files, the app that I'm developing, my email, the CI dashboard all visible at the same time. Of course I'll mainly use the bottom center of the huge display, b…

What you want is a curved ultrawide monitor like the Samsung Odyssey G9. I have one of them (49"). The curve is critical, because it allows the entire surface of the monitor to be basically the same distance from your eyes... meaning you can just glance to the side to use that app you placed in the corner. I have good vision but even for me a non-curved 49" ultrawide is unpleasant to use because the edges and corners…

The ultra-wide monitors sound nice, but they don't really offer that much space; it's basically just two 27" displays side by side.

I currently have two 27" and three 24" displays on my desk. I already physically move to focus on specific tasks (eg. I have email on a vertical monitor on the side, so when answering emails I'll roll over a bit to the side with my chair).

With a TV, I could have one big seamless area instead.

The one thing that does worry me about the TV is the lack of tilt at the top -- everything in the top half of the monitor will be hard to see because of the angle.

When I work with pen and paper, my entire desk is full of stuff, a dozen sheets and books, printouts and diagrams, all visible at a glance.

I don't see why I should limit myself to a much smaller area when working digitally.

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xiphias2 wrote: post #340
Someone wrote: post #248

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Why then don’t you say “I generally care about battery life as the main feature of a computer.” ?

I trust more TSMC process numbers (for large changes, not the 4nm bulls*t) more than battery life published by a PR/marketing team for my buying decisions. They are much harder to fake. And sure, performance/watt is what matters generally, which is again hard to compare between brands and marketing teams.

Even then, I would say you care about battery life and performance/Watt, and think process node a better proxy for them than what manufacturers and reviews say about them.

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Post by officeplant »

cubefox wrote: post #126
officeplant wrote: post #94

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Regular M2 still has the same limitation of two total displays. Unless you use USB->HDMI adaptors that have their own display controllers.

This is crazy. Couldn't much weaker Intel chips do this years ago?

Intel HD graphics introduced with Westmere (2010) supported dual displays, and then Ivy Bridge (2012) supported three displays on the iGPU.

AMD's Llano (2011) supported dual/triple(1) displays on release and Trinity(2012) brought support for up to four displays at once.

(1)You could do triple displays on Llano, but it took a particular set of boards using Dual-Link DVI to drive two monitors IIRC.

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Post by throwawayx134ax »

shaunsingh0207 wrote: post #351
ar_lan wrote: post #240

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> Apple's iTunes prices were low enough that it became simpler just to buy stuff legally than pirate it. I think this is why Spotify/Netflix are so successful. Streaming a good amount of content for a reasonable price is more convenient + less time wasted (+ less stress and moral implications) compared to pirating. I used to pirate music/videos all the time and the moment those services were available I stopped becau…

100%. I stopped pirating altogether for a few years because everything I needed was conveniently available, at a low price. I've told multiple people that if anime had a netflix equivalent with nice UX, I would happily pay for it. Sadly now I feel like the UX and recommendation system of netflix/disney/hulu/etc. is genuinely worse than just pirating. I still pay for spotify though, its feature full, fairly cheap, and…

Crunchyroll?

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Post by gautamcgoel »

yieldcrv wrote: post #124

If an M3 mac has over 128gb RAM, I’m upgrading again 96gb is just under the threshold where it makes a difference, for me

Just curious: what do you need 128GB of RAM for? I have 16GB on my desktop and never feel constrained.

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Post by Tagbert »

bitL wrote: post #278
Tagbert wrote: post #242

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that would make no sense in the context of a MacBook. The phone notch and dynamic island is a freestanding element. The notch on the MacBooks is embedded in the menubar. There would be no “island”. It might be possible for Apple to add Live Activities to the notch on the MacBook (That is what those dynamic notices are called) but only if more software publishers put in the effort.

I am talking mostly about replacing the ugly cut-off at the top with a "smaller hole" instead, not really caring about any software functionality from iPhones.

that notch contains a camera, a couple of sensors and some mounting hardware. Eventually Apple might be able to engineer a smaller version and maybe eventually have them under the display but so far that has proven difficult. In the meantime, the notch is a cleaver method to increase the screen size without making the overall case larger and it does so by making use of a part of the screen that is normally little used.
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