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Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by jrmg »

404mm wrote: post #98
jrmg wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are loads of comments here from people that don’t realize that you actually can turn off notifications for AirTags that belong to family members you’ve linked your iCloud account to. It’s mentioned in one sentence at the end of the article.

How can you do that?! I need this! I have AirTags, family setup and plague of notifications :(

The Apple docks state that if you get a notification about an AirTag assigned to a family member, you have the choice of silencing the notifications indefinitely. Search for ‘family’ here:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by Dylan16807 »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #60
kybernetyk wrote: post #32

It's a shame you can't share one air tag between multiple people. Like: car keys. Why can't me and my wife have access to the one air tag attached to our family car's keys? Why is this something someone at Apple hadn't thought of?

I bet they did but it was a too big can of worms. Did you forgot how everyone claimed what everyone would stalk everyone and hence this shit should be banned? Did you forgot that there were (and probably still are) people who tried to use AirTags to stalk? Now everyone loves AirTags and A. can add more functionality which were deemed too controversial to include at the start.

Why would sharing have made those claims any worse?

And this way they annoy a huge number of people.

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by shaunsingh0207 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #69
dml2135 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it seem crazy to you? Here's what likely happened -- they built the entire system from the ground-up based on a single-user because integrating with iCloud family wasn't part of the MVP. By the time someone got around to asking about it, they realized that their data model was so thoroughly fucked it would take several weeks of risky migrations in order to add multi-user support. So stakeholders are punting…

There’s also the obvious privacy problem of family members stalking each other.

On the iCloud family settings page you can enable/disable sharing your location with the rest of your family. I imagine AirTags would be the same.

That being said, if you aren't comfortable with family members knowing your location, then why would you want to share AirTags or an iCloud with them in the first place?

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by shaunsingh0207 »

duxup wrote: post #43
bcherny wrote: post #6

I recently bought a bunch of AirTags for my family: for our keys, our bike, our luggage. Annoyingly, every AirTag needs to be linked to a single iPhone. Even when everyone belongs to the same Family. AirTags also make annoying sounds every time I grab my keys to go out. They’re still the best UX on the market, but I wish Apple would improve the UX just a bit more. Maybe their policy folks are worried about news stori…

I’ve heard similar reports, but I keep air tags in my kid’s backpacks and the tags never seem to make noises in them. Maybe because they are in predictable contact with me / predictable routes.

I have an AirTag in my bag and it beeps maybe twice a day for no apparent reason, It'll be in the same room as me, I have my phone with me, and I'm in this same room every day. It doesn't send me the notification the bag is "lost", it just starts beeping.

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by shaunsingh0207 »

nonfamous wrote: post #26
drewg123 wrote: post #11

Speaking of odd "Find My" notifications... Does this happen to anybody else: When I take a flight, I'll put my backpack with my M1 MBP into the overhead. Like clockwork, when I land, I get a notification that I left the laptop behind at the origin airport. This happens when I don't even touch the laptop inflight, so I could not have disabled BT or wifi. What metric is making Apple think the laptop was left behind?

At a guess: AirTags (and all Apple devices) get their location from nearby iPhones. If nearby passengers turn on Airplane Mode before departure, their phones stick to being located at the departure airport. When they land and turn off Airplane mode, there’s a short window where they broadcast their “current” location (the departure airport) before getting a new GPS signal. That’s what your M1 is picking up when you l…

Whenever I get on the subway, right after I exit the train I get a notification that my MacBook's left behind at the train station I boarded at. That makes sense then

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by duxup »

shaunsingh0207 wrote: post #114
duxup wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard similar reports, but I keep air tags in my kid’s backpacks and the tags never seem to make noises in them. Maybe because they are in predictable contact with me / predictable routes.

I have an AirTag in my bag and it beeps maybe twice a day for no apparent reason, It'll be in the same room as me, I have my phone with me, and I'm in this same room every day. It doesn't send me the notification the bag is "lost", it just starts beeping.

The difference in experience from user to user is striking.

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by sli »

tinus_hn wrote: post #102
dougmwne wrote: post #81

Airtags are such a mess. My partner has one on his keys. First it would just notify me when he left his phone in the car. No way to permanently dismiss that notification. Hmm. Then it started notifying me all the time whether he has his phone or not. I have a near constant notification that I can only "ignore" for 24 hours. Then it started beeping at random times like in a theatre. I would gladly agree to a waver so…

Next up: people whining because crooks use AirTags to stalk them and Apple isn’t doing enough to stop it

Not sure why the derision is necessary. That's been a constant topic of discussion ever since AirTags released because it's a real concern that has multiple examples and has informed the design of the exact feature that the posted article is about.

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Post by cr3ative »

ezfe wrote: post #18
fwlr wrote: post #10

A “Trust this AirTag” option, perhaps requiring the AirTag’s owner’s device to be involved as well, could solve this issue.

This option is available if the AirTag is a family members' AirTag. You can ignore alerts indefinitely under those conditions.

It isn’t. You can’t. I would love that to be true.

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by Spooky23 »

shaunsingh0207 wrote: post #113
Spooky23 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s also the obvious privacy problem of family members stalking each other.

On the iCloud family settings page you can enable/disable sharing your location with the rest of your family. I imagine AirTags would be the same. That being said, if you aren't comfortable with family members knowing your location, then why would you want to share AirTags or an iCloud with them in the first place?

That’s the point. I don’t want to share AirTags with them.

I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that it’s a difficult and tricky use case.

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Post by matthewdgreen »

marcosscriven wrote: post #8
bcherny wrote: post #6

I recently bought a bunch of AirTags for my family: for our keys, our bike, our luggage. Annoyingly, every AirTag needs to be linked to a single iPhone. Even when everyone belongs to the same Family. AirTags also make annoying sounds every time I grab my keys to go out. They’re still the best UX on the market, but I wish Apple would improve the UX just a bit more. Maybe their policy folks are worried about news stori…

I definitely think there should be a way to attach tags to a family. Like the original article I use one in my dog. I know it’s not the purported use, but it has and does work for us.

> I use one in my dog.

I tried this but it’s annoying to have to keep feeding it to the dog every other day. We eventually just attached it to her collar.

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