Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

Post by meinersbur » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:11 PM UTC

mattnewton wrote: post #30

bcherny wrote: post #6

I recently bought a bunch of AirTags for my family: for our keys, our bike, our luggage. Annoyingly, every AirTag needs to be linked to a single iPhone. Even when everyone belongs to the same Family. AirTags also make annoying sounds every time I grab my keys to go out. They’re still the best UX on the market, but I wish Apple would improve the UX just a bit more. Maybe their policy folks are worried about news stori…

I switched back to tile because of this and haven’t regretted it.

Post by throwaway1777 » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

dml2135 wrote: post #58

jclardy wrote: post #48

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This is super annoying for me, as I bought a tag for our shared mailbox key thinking we both could find it when needed, but only my devices can. It seems crazy to me that this still hasn't been implemented in over a year now - iCloud family plans exist, CloudKit sharing zones exist since last year (In public API form, so likely they existed internally for even longer.) Also the device ID's are already shared internal…

Why does it seem crazy to you? Here's what likely happened -- they built the entire system from the ground-up based on a single-user because integrating with iCloud family wasn't part of the MVP. By the time someone got around to asking about it, they realized that their data model was so thoroughly fucked it would take several weeks of risky migrations in order to add multi-user support. So stakeholders are punting…

Post by sib » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

oakesm9 wrote: post #44

bena wrote: post #14

This is a meta problem with a lot of account-based services. You have someone you share resources with, but not accounts. So they have a dog, they have an AirTag on the dog, they'd both like to know about the tag, but they can't connect the tag to both accounts without making the accounts too intertwined. Like how I can't realistically share my Amazon Prime Video account with my wife because it is also my Amazon ever…

A bit off topic, but with your Amazon account you can create an "Amazon Household" and share any prime benefits you have with another adult[0]. You both still keep separate accounts wiht separate logins, but you'll both get the benefit of a single Prime account. [0] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html%3FnodeI...

Post by greatpatton » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:35 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #69

dml2135 wrote: post #58

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Why does it seem crazy to you? Here's what likely happened -- they built the entire system from the ground-up based on a single-user because integrating with iCloud family wasn't part of the MVP. By the time someone got around to asking about it, they realized that their data model was so thoroughly fucked it would take several weeks of risky migrations in order to add multi-user support. So stakeholders are punting…

There’s also the obvious privacy problem of family members stalking each other.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 5:38 PM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #41

bluetidepro wrote: post #28

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> The disable isn't a disable of notifications. It disables the airtag from reporting its status as an anti-stalking measure. So it wouldn't work for anyone. OHHHH okay, that makes more sense. That was the part of the puzzle that was confusing me. Thanks!

If you’re in the same icloud family, this isn’t a problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34897040