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Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by malloci »

dml2135 wrote: post #58
jclardy wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is super annoying for me, as I bought a tag for our shared mailbox key thinking we both could find it when needed, but only my devices can. It seems crazy to me that this still hasn't been implemented in over a year now - iCloud family plans exist, CloudKit sharing zones exist since last year (In public API form, so likely they existed internally for even longer.) Also the device ID's are already shared internal…

Why does it seem crazy to you? Here's what likely happened -- they built the entire system from the ground-up based on a single-user because integrating with iCloud family wasn't part of the MVP. By the time someone got around to asking about it, they realized that their data model was so thoroughly fucked it would take several weeks of risky migrations in order to add multi-user support. So stakeholders are punting…

Not to mention that Apple, in general, isn’t really known for their multiuser-friendly ways.

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Post by nottorp »

kybernetyk wrote: post #32

It's a shame you can't share one air tag between multiple people. Like: car keys. Why can't me and my wife have access to the one air tag attached to our family car's keys? Why is this something someone at Apple hadn't thought of?

> Why can't me and my wife have access to the one air tag attached to our family car's keys? Why is this something someone at Apple hadn't thought of?

They probably did, but decided they don't want to be part of divorces :)

Re: Apple is convinced my dog is stalking me

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Post by _justinfunk »

yieldcrv wrote: post #5

This but airpods. The last few months when I go out I get notifications that some airpods are following me. As if someone dropped one in my jacket pocket specifically to follow me around popular bars, as opposed to someone else just going to the same popular local bars. The first time it was screenshot worthy at best. I'm not the demographic to have predatory tactics done towards me, the likelihood was too small. The…

I appreciate the opposite notifications saying "You have left your AirPods behind" while I am listening to my AirPods.

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Post by [deleted] »

marcosscriven wrote: post #8
bcherny wrote: post #6

I recently bought a bunch of AirTags for my family: for our keys, our bike, our luggage. Annoyingly, every AirTag needs to be linked to a single iPhone. Even when everyone belongs to the same Family. AirTags also make annoying sounds every time I grab my keys to go out. They’re still the best UX on the market, but I wish Apple would improve the UX just a bit more. Maybe their policy folks are worried about news stori…

I definitely think there should be a way to attach tags to a family. Like the original article I use one in my dog. I know it’s not the purported use, but it has and does work for us.

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Post by croutonwagon »

el_benhameen wrote: post #70
bcherny wrote: post #6

I recently bought a bunch of AirTags for my family: for our keys, our bike, our luggage. Annoyingly, every AirTag needs to be linked to a single iPhone. Even when everyone belongs to the same Family. AirTags also make annoying sounds every time I grab my keys to go out. They’re still the best UX on the market, but I wish Apple would improve the UX just a bit more. Maybe their policy folks are worried about news stori…

This is surprisingly powerful anti-marketing from Apple. I got some AirTags to keep track of our keys without realizing that AirTags can’t be shared within a family. I hoped they’d be useful to my wife, who sometimes forgets her purse, but she absolutely hates them as they’re always giving her warnings. I loaned my car to my sister and now she and her husband are off the list of potential customers, too. I get the st…

Interesting point you make.

My wife and I have shared an icloud account since before family sharing was an option but i was way too cheap to by multiple copies of a weather app etc.

It works fine short of having to make some new tweaks each time i update/restore/add a device (mostly around setting options in iMessage and Facetime to uncheck my numbers on her device and vice versa on mine.).

I have been increasingly mulling over setting up family sharing. But I am also planning a longer trip to another country and bought some airtags for luggage etc, but also to use for our keys/wallet etc.

These comments have me saying sticking with the current setup would be preferred. Specifically for the airtags.

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Post by mpolichette »

fwlr wrote: post #10

A “Trust this AirTag” option, perhaps requiring the AirTag’s owner’s device to be involved as well, could solve this issue.

I think this option is still ripe for issues within a domestic abuse situation. The abuser would simply use their phone to “trust it”.

Maybe a longer dismissal though?

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Post by middle-marathon »

jclardy wrote: post #62
soco wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I can walk around and disable every airtag in sight? Some important information must be missing here...

It requires the iPhone to go "home" or "work" or any regular repeated location with the airtag following for some period of time. That's why the dog airtag in the article continues to go off, when they take the dog on a walk, it follows the same path, then ends up back at the shared house. Their case would be solved by using an iCloud family plan, but they don't want to.

iCloud family plan doesn't actually fix this anyway. There is no way to 'share' an AirTag with people in your iCloud family.
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