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Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Europe is actually "net expensive" because there are high payroll taxes in some countries, and then, of course, in some countries it is virtually impossible to fire.

Oh man, I hear this on every such topic. It is in no way virtually impossible to fire someone, you just can't do it willy nilly because you don't like someone's face. You just have to follow well defined procedures (pip is a thing here too)

This. It's reasonably easy to fire someone, provided you have genuine cause.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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They shut my office down in Canada. Lots of jobs. Most are remote for US companies though. Very few recruiters spamming me, but companies are very receptive to inbound inquiries from me. I’m a senior eng in AI research though, which is obviously having a big moment right now.

>They shut my office down in Canada. Lots of jobs. Most are remote for US companies though. Is it true that most employees of US tech companies in Canadian offices are immigrants who are parked there on their way to the US, or can't get into the US?

Wtf

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Poland. On one hand it’s a bit slower on the other Google here hiring like crazy, Netflix opening up an office, Shopify acquiring whole companies… To me it seems like big tech fires in the US then look for cheaper workforce elsewhere. Or maybe just a coincidence?

Yeah, it seems that the highly paid Silicon Valley developers have effectively convinced executives that their jobs can be done remotely.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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India. Was laid off in August while working for a US-based company. My first layoff in a 10-year career. Still looking for a job. I'm broke. As in "can't pay my bills next month" broke. People are hiring but remote jobs are hard to find. (I have family responsibilities and cannot relocate) I did find jobs. People who took 7 rounds of interviews then never released an offer letter. AFTER verbally confirming that I'd g…

One of my Indian coworkers mentioned once in passing that he could cover his living costs for the year using 2 months' salary (we work for a US company, yearly salary is below 6 figures). He implied that he could stop working and live comfortably for 20+ years using what he had saved in the past 5 years. Is your situation special, or are your monthly expenses that much higher?

Probably the latter. Must have bought a fancy house, kids go to the best schools in the city etc. I’m not saying this in a disparaging way, but the fact is that cost of living in India is still pretty low if you settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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India. Was laid off in August while working for a US-based company. My first layoff in a 10-year career. Still looking for a job. I'm broke. As in "can't pay my bills next month" broke. People are hiring but remote jobs are hard to find. (I have family responsibilities and cannot relocate) I did find jobs. People who took 7 rounds of interviews then never released an offer letter. AFTER verbally confirming that I'd g…

One of my Indian coworkers mentioned once in passing that he could cover his living costs for the year using 2 months' salary (we work for a US company, yearly salary is below 6 figures). He implied that he could stop working and live comfortably for 20+ years using what he had saved in the past 5 years. Is your situation special, or are your monthly expenses that much higher?

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Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

#126

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One of my Indian coworkers mentioned once in passing that he could cover his living costs for the year using 2 months' salary (we work for a US company, yearly salary is below 6 figures). He implied that he could stop working and live comfortably for 20+ years using what he had saved in the past 5 years. Is your situation special, or are your monthly expenses that much higher?

Probably the latter. Must have bought a fancy house, kids go to the best schools in the city etc. I’m not saying this in a disparaging way, but the fact is that cost of living in India is still pretty low if you settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

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Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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One of my Indian coworkers mentioned once in passing that he could cover his living costs for the year using 2 months' salary (we work for a US company, yearly salary is below 6 figures). He implied that he could stop working and live comfortably for 20+ years using what he had saved in the past 5 years. Is your situation special, or are your monthly expenses that much higher?

Probably the latter. Must have bought a fancy house, kids go to the best schools in the city etc. I’m not saying this in a disparaging way, but the fact is that cost of living in India is still pretty low if you settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

OP here. Not true.

[Saying anything further will probably lead to a tangential debate. Will digress from root Ask HN]

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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300 per month, 300*12=3600 per year, seems a lot lower than median for Brazil: https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/brazil . Guess there must be a huge span between companies then.

I'm thinking that was meant to be $3,000 USD per month ~ $36K annum in Brazil (which is circa Brazil median dev salary).

No. I mean 300 USD per month. If I was offered 3000 USD per month I would jump with joy and be extremely thankful. My last job I was earning something like that and people here started to treat me as if I was extremely wealthy.

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Brazilian here: for laid off in November by an UK based startup and still unemployed. Local companies seemly are willing to hire but because the flood of fired workers they are offering really bad wages. I got offered work as embedded C dev for 300 USD month... I didn't accept back then because I was still working in my old job. I regret not taking that job now. 300 USD at least is more than 0 USD.

What would be a good rate for you atm?

2000 USD per month would allow me pay my existing bills. I wouldn't save any money, but I would be able to pay my rent and buy some crappy food.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Probably the latter. Must have bought a fancy house, kids go to the best schools in the city etc. I’m not saying this in a disparaging way, but the fact is that cost of living in India is still pretty low if you settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

OP here. Not true. [Saying anything further will probably lead to a tangential debate. Will digress from root Ask HN]

I'm interested in your answer, not because I'm looking for a debate, I'm just curious about the situation in general.

But I also understand if you don't want to go into it. In any case, I wish you the best.

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