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Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Brazilian here: for laid off in November by an UK based startup and still unemployed. Local companies seemly are willing to hire but because the flood of fired workers they are offering really bad wages. I got offered work as embedded C dev for 300 USD month... I didn't accept back then because I was still working in my old job. I regret not taking that job now. 300 USD at least is more than 0 USD.

What would be a good rate for you atm?

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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it should only affect USA. most companies depend on investor money (some to live, like tsla, uber. some because of bonuses tied to stock prices) those companies know that investor money is directly related to FED rate. if its zero, they get invested, if its high, people will put money to work elsewhere. they only lever they have to control fed rate is unemployment. they know they are hurting their business by laying…

Currently the US is at a 53-year low in unemployment.

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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In New Zealand - most layoffs I’ve heard about have been US companies trimming offshore staff. At least one high profile local startup has laid people off though. Speaking as a hiring manager it’s definitely been easier to find people since around mid 2022

Apart from one high profile NZ startup (possibly the same one) most companies seem to be okay. Lots of companies still hiring although not as aggressively as a year ago.

I know someone who lost their job at gitlab and various others working remote for US companies are worried. Most NZ It jobs are at companies serving local users or smallish NZ companies serving global markets. Relatively few work for a big global company that could easily move their job elsewhere.

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post #34

Poland. On one hand it’s a bit slower on the other Google here hiring like crazy, Netflix opening up an office, Shopify acquiring whole companies… To me it seems like big tech fires in the US then look for cheaper workforce elsewhere. Or maybe just a coincidence?

Hard to say. It might be, but I did notice some not so subtle memes posted on LinkedIn about "dont wanna come to office? lemme get someone from India; you want donuts tomorrow boss?". I am oddly inspired that the old country is getting slowly recognized as a place to pick up developers though ( it makes sense, big English speaking population, similar values ).

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Australia has been fine. Amongst the big software engineering hirers (Google, Atlassian, Canva, big banks, WiseTech, AWS) only Google Sydney is known to be doing layoffs. Zendesk (Melbourne) did layoffs last year, but this was small scale I think, and mostly driven by their company-specific troubles.

Several companies did layoffs here. Australia is not immune.

Some American companies like Google and twitter layed off etc. "Mark43, a US company that builds online platforms for public safety organisations like police, fire or other emergency services, made its entire Australian office redundant at the end of June. Former staff member Gary* estimates around 70 people were laid off, with most of them based in Sydney."

but also local companies

https://itbrief.com.au/story/one-in-five-young-aussies-in-te...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/finder-staff-sh...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/sydney-technolo...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/me...

Re: Ask HN: How are the current layoffs affecting non-US developers?

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Interestingly no comments from anyone in India considering that is the largest tech market outside the US and where majority of jobs are moving to and India seems to be one of the few countries growing and projected to do well in this economic slump environment. I guess all their developers are busy working so no time for HN.
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