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Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by concordDance »

metaphor wrote: post #27
runsWphotons wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And doesnt this say that the average maternal age was 23/patenal 30--not the "average age of first child" which would be lower. The average age of first child for women is now over 30 in the us i think. So the difference is huge. (edit: corrected below)

> The average age of first child for women is now over 30 in the us i think. Less handwaving, more cites[1]. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/b.htm#agefb

I'd like to commend you for adding actual data here! Really helps the discussion :)

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by tokai »

the_doctah wrote: post #26
tokai wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's been shown long ago that most men rate most women as above average (in attractiveness), whereas most women rate most men as below average. Is that's from the OkCupid data? While interesting you definitely can't claim that 'it has been shown' if that data is the foundation.

What's your personal "it's been shown" threshold then?

Scientific studies. Not a blog post from a private company. There was a host of potential issues with their data due to sampling, questioning, etc.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by hgsgm »

v8xi wrote: post #39
nebukadnet wrote: post #22

I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.

The article states 60/30% of young people, so the correct interpretation is that older men are "taking" a large share of the young, single women / young women prefer dating older men.

And men die young than women. That leaves a surplus of lonely old women who form a harem for the male survivors in the old folks homes.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by epolanski »

GalenErso wrote: post #11

A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about. You don't need to make 6 figures, to be 6 feet tall, to have the body of The Rock or 2004 Brad Pitt's face. Having one interesting hobby is also a huge plus, even if it's as simple as hiking or jogging. You just need to be minimally interesting.…

> A man who is financially autonomous, practices basic hygiene and grooming, wears tasteful clothing, and approaches women with respect and manners has nothing to worry about.

The tasteful clothing can be even left out and I find your comment largely naive, but your point kind of stays true: if you're "normal" there's armies of women out there looking for relationships.

A suprising amount of 30+ year olds I know would spend most of their free time gaming or conducting isolated and unappealing lives.

And the biggest complain I hear from women is lack of maturity, masculinity and most of all mental health among men.

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Post by cpdean »

Dalewyn wrote: post #19

The article poses the situation as a problem, and I say "screw that noise" (pun intended) with my anecdote: I'm a man now in my mid-30s, and I cannot god damn wait until I'm old enough to be out of the "marriage market" so everyone stops fucking pestering me about marriage. I find absolutely no appeal in the concept. The legal and social risks of associating with women beyond friendships are simply not worth it. I al…

I get it, makes sense to want prevent grief by avoiding connection and love. And if you're meeting your needs in life, that's fine and all.

But it's because of love that grief has meaning.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by DebtDeflation »

nebukadnet wrote: post #22

I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.

> so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men

If you read the article to the end, it specifically mentions the former and also strongly implies the latter.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by hgsgm »

anovikov wrote: post #34
nebukadnet wrote: post #22

I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.

Nothing surprising, yes this is mostly about top 10% of men dating several women each. Inequality in action.

Casual dating is single. Those women are still single, except in the rare cases of bigamy.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by hisnameishank »

v8xi wrote: post #39
nebukadnet wrote: post #22

I find this very surprising. The first sentence of the article states that about 60% of men are single, and only about 30% of women. There's about equal men and women, so that would mean that 30% of women are dating each other, or are in relationships with multiple men? That's discounting men dating men. I find that surprising.

The article states 60/30% of young people, so the correct interpretation is that older men are "taking" a large share of the young, single women / young women prefer dating older men.

I think this article is somewhat of a relief to myself. It always felt like the majority of women I talked to casually mentioned they are in a relationship before my interest further peaked. At least it's not just thinking it's a coincidence that the majority that I talk to are taken, it's statistical lol.

Re: Most young men are single. Most young women are not

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Post by _trackno5 »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #17

Boys addicted to computer games and porn, girls addicted to social media which allow and facilitate sexism (only one way), an increasingly bleak future, economic and geopolitical uncertainty, "intelligence" organisations running rampant trying to control citizen's minds.. Yeah I wonder why our societies are going down the shitter.

I am highly skeptical that computer games and porn addictions are significant factors here. Sure they are problems that need to be solved, but I doubt it is a significant contribution to the problem.

I can see how social media might bias perception though. I guess pre-internet era you just had to compete against people in your local community when you were looking for a partner. Way harder now to standout in the world of Instagram / Tiktok where the trendiest people are likely in the top 10% of attractiveness (be it money, appearance, personality, etc).

It reminds my of a super old survey done by okcupid where women rated 80% of men as below average: https://archive.is/2017.01.21-154729/https://blog.okcupid.co...

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