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If you'd earn less going somewhere else, then there's no reason to jump ship till you have to: keep banking the money till the situation becomes untenable.
As if only money counts. There is also somrthing like the fun part of work. Maybe i am spoiled by living in a country where money is not really an issue.
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You must have missed that time they all colluded together with anti-poaching agreements to minimize liquidity in the job market then turned around and used that as an excuse to demand higher H1B quotas for more guest serfs.
> they all colluded together with anti-poaching agreements to minimize Meta explicitly refused to join that agreement. See https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2014/03/24/shery...
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That seems a little extreme. I have seen performance reviews used correctly to help engineers to improve on areas that they were lacking. And it works. Some people needs to improve communication skills, or have some blind technical spot. Doing that makes them way better, and I have seen people getting better jobs after improving (inside and outside the company). But I agree that any tool used wrongly can be replaced…
Do performance reviews work better than just constructive feedback in 1:1s though? Reviews seem to be a pathway for the company to get rid of people rather than to help them grow. As a growth pathway, it is very ineffective. Other efforts work better imo - mentoring, 1:1s, 360 degree feedback, learning budgets, workshops, introducing a culture more appreciative of learning, and so on. They can cost less in total work…
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#44> Managers gave about 10% of the company’s workers poor reviews The article didn't manage to get a quote on what the guidance/orders for the reviews was. For example, were managers given a target on how many of their reports were to receive poor reviews? Or did the evaluation criteria change besides the target distribution?
Maybe they are grading on a bell curve like they did in my youth? 10% get excellent reviews, 10% get poor reviews and everyone else falls somewhere in the middle.
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#45Here's the problem: at Meta 10-15% of employees in these buckets has to get a subpar rating. This includes Meets Most Expectations (2 MMs in a row probably means you're on a PIP), Meets Some (probably auto PIP), Meets None (fired) and Non Regrettable Loss. This last one applies to rating employees who leave.
NRL in this bucket may have changed. For one thing there was talk that HR not management was responsible for NRL designations because otherwise orgs made up their quota of subpar ratings by using leaving employees as ablative shielding.
Don't believe me about these quotas? Two words: "tbgs genTargetPercentage".
I personally don't have issue with avoiding ratings inflation in principle. While I was Google I don't believe subpar ratings had a quota like FB/Meta has (or at least had).
This is classic "up or out" GE nonsense. And I can tell you from experience that this is incredibly toxic. The entire calibration process devolves into a popularity contest and rewards those who are good at politics. While in a growth period, these problems didn't tend to matter.
I said it when the layoffs were announced: those who were laid off were largely the lucky ones. More layoffs would be coming and those would be with forced attrition. This is what this is. Subpar ratings hurt your bonus and equity refreshes and and will make it more difficult to transfer teams. All of this is by design. You're in that (now increasingly wider) band of employees they want to quit rather than fire.
Disclaimer: ex-Facebooker.
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There’s no evidence that “all the top tech companies” are trying to push down salaries. I’ve neither seen nor heard any evidence of this at Netflix or Apple. Google? Salary ranges for open positions in California are public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L... in which "top tech companies" (including Apple and Google) were successfully sued for trying to push down salaries.
So… I stand corrected. Netflix plays its own game, and is the exception to the rule?
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Do performance reviews work better than just constructive feedback in 1:1s though? Reviews seem to be a pathway for the company to get rid of people rather than to help them grow. As a growth pathway, it is very ineffective. Other efforts work better imo - mentoring, 1:1s, 360 degree feedback, learning budgets, workshops, introducing a culture more appreciative of learning, and so on. They can cost less in total work…
For my org the performance review should not be surprising for the employees. Through 1:1 and continuous feedback they should exactly know where they are. This should be the opportunity to formalize the feedback and set goals for the next cycle.
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#50> deploying AI tools to help our engineers be more productive Interested in how that turns out. I seriously doubt that it will make the work environment any more pleasant. That said, the salaries at Meta are pretty crazy. I guess folks are willing to put up with a lot to make that kind of dosh. Of course, if, as has been speculated, this is a full-court press by all the top tech companies to push down salaries, then…
There’s no evidence that “all the top tech companies” are trying to push down salaries. I’ve neither seen nor heard any evidence of this at Netflix or Apple. Google? Salary ranges for open positions in California are public.
It seems that they've figured out how to get around that: https://news.yahoo.com/90000-to-900000-pay-transparency-laws...