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Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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ux-app wrote: post #50
awb wrote: post #47

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> you're talking to a computer in English ffs and it not only understands you, it goes away and does useful work. Google has “understood” English queries for a while now in the sense that you can type a question in English into the search bar and it goes off and does “useful work”. The problem with these AI implementations is that it goes off and does work , but not always useful work. In many cases it’s wrong. In ma…

you've got to be joking mate. >Google has “understood” English queries you can't, with a straight face, be comparing a Google search to what ChatGPT is doing. C'mon man. >In many cases it’s wrong. In many cases the result is below entry-level. Once again I'm baffled by this dismissal. I don't think you actually understand what you're seeing with ChatGPT. There is very interesting emergent behaviour occurring. Trying…

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Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by LeoPanthera »

tambourine_man wrote: post #27

I’m always amazed at the dismissive comments recent AI advancement generates: it’s not really creation, a human would do much better, it’s getting old, etc Think about it for a second: a machine understood your request in plain English and executed it adequately, instantly and free. If you can’t think how that will affect every aspect of UX and creative job I don’t know what to tell you. And that’s not even touching…

This will be for real, when I can run this stuff at home.

Stable Diffusion is there. But GPT-3 still has to be run on my behalf by a company that could pull the rug at any moment, or add more stuff that they don't approve of to their TOS. (You already can't use it for "sexy" content. Want help writing a love letter? Oh no, you're banned.)

The "lighter" versions these text models that can be run at home aren't good enough yet.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by ux-app »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #53
ux-app wrote: post #31

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>Coding involve care and inspiration give it a rest mate. Most coding is garbage generic gluing of boilerplate and API calls. Aligning buttons and agonizing over 18px vs 20px padding is a monumental waste of human capital. 99.999% of coding is basically an interface to a DB (fetch some data, display it, maybe do some basic arithmetic and then save the data). A machine will do all that drudgery better and quicker. We'…

You are definitely right that most code is banal and glue, and that is indeed why the models, or this one at least, seems to be best suited to regurgitate it and change the names of your variables. I guess I still don't see your main point though. There are plenty of tested and compliant style frameworks out there that have figured this stuff out, and they will do it better than whatever Stackoverflow example the AI…

>I guess I still don't see your main point though.

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>You are definitely right that most code is banal and glue

looks like you did see my main point.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

ux-app wrote: post #42
krainboltgreene wrote: post #35

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> give it a rest mate. Most coding is garbage generic gluing of boilerplate and API calls. I think that says a lot more about the code you perceive than it does about what coding happens in the world.

for every programmer working on cutting edge creative/systems/math heavy code there are 1000 gluing APIs and tapping out glorified CRUD apps. let's not pretend it's otherwise.

I think we should generate less CRUD, competing standards, endless new languages, frameworks, databases, Linux distros, and so on. I don't see why we should automate this. We could get far greater gains in productivity by less duplicated effort.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by ux-app »

apsurd wrote: post #60
ux-app wrote: post #50

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you've got to be joking mate. >Google has “understood” English queries you can't, with a straight face, be comparing a Google search to what ChatGPT is doing. C'mon man. >In many cases it’s wrong. In many cases the result is below entry-level. Once again I'm baffled by this dismissal. I don't think you actually understand what you're seeing with ChatGPT. There is very interesting emergent behaviour occurring. Trying…

curious what the emergent behavior is. it's a massive hash lookup table at a scale never accomplished and then you can lookup recursively and such. then follows whether humans/consciousness is not also just a hash lookup. humans have emergent property of consciousness, so philosophy aside, what's currently emerginent in chatgpt?

this [1] should get you started.

[1] https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/11/characterizing-emergent-ph...

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by hypothesis »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #58
jvm___ wrote: post #43

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Will AGI be one system, or the final boss that controls all the AI subsystems? I think when AGI arrives, there will be so many AI tools out there we won't notice another one. AGI seems like a moving goalpost target that always changes to whatever AI can't do today.

It’s going to be an ecosystem of intelligence, just like it already is today. The notion of “an intelligence” is going to go away. The singularity is real and AGI is here —but it isn’t like some runaway single agent that self improves and takes over the world. Just wait till it all starts talking to each other, training each other, using each other, all in convergence with humans. It’s very real. And very weird.

Is there anything to stop them from using other against others? Will they start using humans as a tool too?

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by shock-value »

ux-app wrote: post #50
awb wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're talking to a computer in English ffs and it not only understands you, it goes away and does useful work. Google has “understood” English queries for a while now in the sense that you can type a question in English into the search bar and it goes off and does “useful work”. The problem with these AI implementations is that it goes off and does work , but not always useful work. In many cases it’s wrong. In ma…

you've got to be joking mate. >Google has “understood” English queries you can't, with a straight face, be comparing a Google search to what ChatGPT is doing. C'mon man. >In many cases it’s wrong. In many cases the result is below entry-level. Once again I'm baffled by this dismissal. I don't think you actually understand what you're seeing with ChatGPT. There is very interesting emergent behaviour occurring. Trying…

The advancement with these LLMs lies in the fact that they can effectively learn to recognize patterns within “large-ish” input text sequences and probabilistically generate a likely next word given those patterns.

It’s a genuine advancement. However it is still just pattern matching. And describing anything it’s doing as “behavior” is a real stretch given that it is a feed-forward network that does not incorporate any notion of agency, memory, or deliberation into its processing.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by grugagag »

peytoncasper wrote: post #26
grugagag wrote: post #19

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> Websites of 2000-2020 will look as dated as magazine ads. New websites will be rich and interactive as never before. Why? Do we need any of that aside from specialized tools (e.g. data intensive) for which it actually makes sense to use tried and proven tech? Im sure new things are going to come out of AI, they’re already becoming obvious. But using AI to build things we already know how to do and just add more com…

I'm truly amazed at this opinion which seems to be prevalent on this thread. The models are tools that already have the ability to accelerate your work now, and will massively improve over the next decade. Comparing it to things we already know how to do provides the ability to benchmark and see how much value it brings to the table. Being on the forefront, exploring, and hacking on side projects has always been the…

To fit better with your analogy, how about using AI to invent a vehicle without using the tools and expertise of engineers that already have experience in building cars. And let AI figure how many doors it needs to have, how many wheels, how an engine works and all that because why not? Maybe it will come up with a batter idea, screw any experience and history we have building anything.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by arroz »

ux-app wrote: post #50
awb wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're talking to a computer in English ffs and it not only understands you, it goes away and does useful work. Google has “understood” English queries for a while now in the sense that you can type a question in English into the search bar and it goes off and does “useful work”. The problem with these AI implementations is that it goes off and does work , but not always useful work. In many cases it’s wrong. In ma…

you've got to be joking mate. >Google has “understood” English queries you can't, with a straight face, be comparing a Google search to what ChatGPT is doing. C'mon man. >In many cases it’s wrong. In many cases the result is below entry-level. Once again I'm baffled by this dismissal. I don't think you actually understand what you're seeing with ChatGPT. There is very interesting emergent behaviour occurring. Trying…

Google has understood English queries for years. Lately it has even been highlighting the answers you are looking for in the websites it shows. chatGPT is diferente but not far off.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by deepspace »

mellosouls wrote: post #44
tambourine_man wrote: post #37

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I could never have done that. Never bought into the crypto hype, even though I still find the blockchain very interesting. Never had a cent in crypto currency or NFT. In fact, I’m extremely averse to hype, perhaps almost to a pathological degree. And yet, I can’t remember when I was more scared and excited about some tech. Take that as you wish.

I agree, I'm very hype-averse, and have moaned on here before about crypto-nonsense (and previous AI/AGI BS), but this is genuinely different. It's a shame that people who are rightfully sceptical - precisely because of the hype-merchants and snake-oil salesman of the past decade or so on various tech "advances" have misjudged the quantum leap we are witnessing, and will duly fall behind or paint themselves into a lu…

> fall behind or paint themselves into a luddite corner because of it

I am not too concerned about that. It was easy to dismiss the blockchain/nft/web3 hype because there really is nothing there. No matter how hard the snake-oil salesmen tried, they were unable to create a killer app over the course of more than a decade.

I am likewise on the skeptical end of the AI hype, but I am using ChatGPT daily to do tedious stuff for me. The utility is so obvious and AI will become so ubiquitous that it will be impossible to ignore.

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